-*- coding: utf-8 -*- BartholomewJS ​Greetings, everyone. BartholomewJS ​#9 Xah Lee ​woot, bathlo Welcome to live chat! Remember to guard your privacy and abide by our community guidelines. Duncan Holm ​Greetz Duncan Holm ​Is your mic muted? BartholomewJS ​You're muted. Bartosz Białas ​Hi. I cannot hear anything. Are you muted? BartholomewJS ​Greetings @Bartosz Białas BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee You're muted. Bartosz Białas ​Ok now :) ZitronCrazy ​Hey Xah BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee It works again. BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee But now your sound quality is crap. BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee It sounds like you bumped up the bass way up. BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee Now is better. ZitronCrazy ​the professional Xah Lee Serge Balakin ​😃 Serge Balakin ​predicate.... Bartosz Białas ​How many browser tabs do you usually have open? I have dozens to hundreds of them, maybe I should look into bookmarking services. Do you try to manage it somehow? Xah Lee ​Yoko Kanno ♪ Moon (Gundam) http://xahmusic.org/music/Turn_A_Gund... GrinDeg ​hi BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee I think the problem was the code itself and not your explanation. GrinDeg ​Do you know anything about Chez Scheme? GrinDeg ​I found about it, cause Racket uses it GrinDeg ​yes GrinDeg ​instead of C Bartosz Białas ​They are rewriting Racket in Chez Scheme currently Duncan Holm ​@Xah Lee , you proudly said you never design Objects, but that means you don't get to leverage one of the central features of Golang, Interfaces! Bartosz Białas ​Not really Julian Gawronsky ​pijul version control BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee The attraction with MUDs is that it basically doesn't/didn't cost any computing resource and yet the world was virtually infinite and you could have ultimate freedom.. BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee ..compared to other game, especially at the time when MUDs were new and successful. BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee You should watch the GDC video of the original MUD creator. It is a 1 hour rant for why such a text based type game is far superior to many other game types in many aspects. GrinDeg ​Maybe second life is too complex, and minecraft is accessible even for small kids BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee I still remember flying in Second Life. Sod Oscarfono ​ain't nobody got time for that lol.. good morning! Sod Oscarfono ​😃 BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee I answered your question regarding MUDs. GrinDeg ​How do you subscribe to people? RSS? if so how do you read them? BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee People watch YouTube to escape TV propaganda and then have to face classic TV crap recommended on YouTube. 😁 Sod Oscarfono ​GrinDeg. I use thunderbird for email and can read rss through that. ... if that helps GrinDeg ​Sod, I personally read RSS from emacs with elfeed Bartosz Białas ​I am actually developing software in Python to at some intervals (e.g. every 30 minutes) scraps websites that are of interest for me, parses that and saves to DB. Duncan Holm ​The youtube-dl CLI utility can be used to easily download and archive all videos you've liked or added to playlists Bartosz Białas ​If something interesting happened, I got a mail BartholomewJS ​@Duncan Holm Recently I downloaded @Xah Lee s channel with that in mind. Sod Oscarfono ​@GrinDeg fair enough.. i try to keep my email/rss seperate as i get buffer overload .. i use i3wm so its a nice easy switch .. happy with that. I misunderstood what you wer asking sorry. Sod Oscarfono ​@Duncan Holm thats a good idea.. i should start archiving GrinDeg ​Sod, no problem. I actually wanted to know what Xah uses Duncan Holm ​youtube-dl works really well, but it needs to be updated to a new version often to keep it working. Presumably Google try to block it GrinDeg ​Yes youtube dl is great BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee Game Developer Conference BartholomewJS ​YfX8Z8W9JCE BartholomewJS ​Is the video link posted? Михаил Бахтерев ​What are your opinion about Haskell? Is it language for the future of prpgramming. How it is compared to Mathematica? BartholomewJS ​Anyway, it's called "MUD: Messrs Bartle and Trubshaw's Astonishing Contrivance". Dion Bridger ​Hi all Bartosz Białas ​You said you have around 20 tabs in each browser. Do you find it comfortable to switch between browsers? I prefer to just heavily customize FIrefox and use that BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee 62.36GB , but I need to download the videos from the last couple of days. Duncan Holm ​Hi Dion BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee The videos are in best quality that I could download from YouTube directly. BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee Greetings, @Dion Bridger . Calvin Junge ​I just have 2 LG ultra wide 21:9 monitors, that's like 4 feet of desktop and I have 237 tabs open rn Sod Oscarfono ​sheesh... i still can't long divide and i'm 41. 😞 Calvin Junge ​@BartholomewJS can you tell me what tool you use to download videos from YouTube BartholomewJS ​@Calvin Junge youtube-dl Calvin Junge ​thx Duncan Holm ​Elm is like a really simplified Haskell, only usable for frontend webapps BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee Check out Luna: luna-lang o r g Dion Bridger ​Haskell has to be the most criticized least used proglang in the world... Dion Bridger ​maybe next to common lisp barrios160679 ​Hello to all schizoids worldwide! Bartosz Białas ​I disagree with your opinion on Haskell. It's the only existing language which both (1) brings modern programming language theory to (2) production-ready language. Duncan Holm ​I watched some Yaron Minsky OCaml presentations and translated the examples to Elm. Pretty fun to use so-called algebraic datatypes. Bartosz Białas ​The rest is either unusable in production or doesn't do anything nontrivial and is just a copy of JS/Java/C Sod Oscarfono ​agreed just cos a project is open source, doesn't necessarily mean someone is scrutinizing the code hey. Bartosz Białas ​Haskell is the only language where you can actually try out modern PTL ideas BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee I still have about 700GB left for your videos, so keep going. Calvin Junge ​my chrome is using 9GB Ram as we speak BartholomewJS ​@Calvin Junge Damn son, do you use an old version? I remember a very long-lasting memory leak in Firefox on my machine. They fixed it by now, though. Duncan Holm ​Bury the Xah video archive in a time capsule in the forrest Sod Oscarfono ​to those with soo many tabs open.. how often do you go back to those tabs? I like this idea of keeping a text file mentioned earlier. I think I'll create an org file so i can easily categorize etc. Bartosz Białas ​@Sod Oscarfono actually most of these pages I want to come back to, like HN or Wikipedia articles I want to read later BartholomewJS ​@Sod Oscarfono I occassionally had several hundreds of tabs open about a year ago regularly, every day, and I got sick of it, because I barely came back to a big percentage of them. BartholomewJS ​@Sod Oscarfono I suppose at least half of them. So I forced myself to close tabs I don't use right now or literally every 5 minutes. Since then it got better and I am more satisfied with my browsing BartholomewJS ​@Sod Oscarfono experience. Sod Oscarfono ​@Bartosz Białas i get it.. guilty myself, but it seems saner to not keep it in memory, and create links within org file instead. i'm gonna try this out for a while i think Sod Oscarfono ​@BartholomewJS yep been there.. then started reaching resource limits so had to become a bit more disciplined. BartholomewJS ​@Sod Oscarfono Ironically, my resources (i.e. RAM) were bumped up by a huge lot since then and yet I find it better to have a rather clean interface when browsing. BartholomewJS ​@Sod Oscarfono It makes you more focused and you don't trip over 10 days old obsolete tabs in the process of doing something. Calvin Junge ​no I have like 20 extensions that rip apart my RAM BartholomewJS ​@Sod Oscarfono Due to my history, obviously I still use a lot more tabs than some 1 tab grandma, but compared to what I did before, I basically have nothing open.. BartholomewJS ​@Sod Oscarfono The only problem left are YouTube videos I keep open in tabs. I need to find an even more efficient way of keeping only a very limited amount of them open. Sod Oscarfono ​CTRL-TAB CTRL-TAB CTRL-TAB CTRL-TAB YAWN BartholomewJS ​@Calvin Junge I have a lot too. Currently my Firefox takes up about 2.7GB. Surprisingly low. My record was I think about 20GB. Sod Oscarfono ​@BartholomewJS org mode links ftw? BartholomewJS ​@Sod Oscarfono There are in-browser extensions that make it even easier than that. Sod Oscarfono ​emacs !!! Bartosz Białas ​[message retracted] Bartosz Białas ​[message retracted] BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee I know you for your freakiness and opinionation, which is the most interesting part. You are the opposite of mainstream. BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee I can't post links so I had to write it weirdly like that. Bartosz Białas ​@Xah Lee Good stream, thanks 😃 Sod Oscarfono ​@BartholomewJS i try to limit extensions. i'm pretty security conscious, and also like to eliminate potential for bugs being introduced BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee Congratulations, according to my youtube-dl you have uploaded exactly 200 videos/streams now (except the currently running now). Calvin Junge ​wow crazy Sod Oscarfono ​@Xah Lee have you done a video on creating multiple revenue streams online and how you support yourself through those channels? I'd be keen to watch? Sod Oscarfono ​I"d like to "revolutionize" my bank balance Liokardo ​Well, "Future of computing" Jonáš Šerých ​try duckducking g! luna lang Bartosz Białas ​@Xah Lee You program in diagrams in Luna. It's visual programming BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee I wanted to see your opinion on a visual programming language. BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee Luna language is a functional programming language that you can program with nodes, as you have seen demonstrated on their website. BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee I did not try it myself yet, but I found it to be not a clone of other langs. Bartosz Białas ​@Xah Lee you can enable superchats on YouTube, then people can send you money through this chat BartholomewJS ​@Bartosz Białas Don't burn up the dumpster. Sod Oscarfono ​@Xah Lee i'm in the same boat. I have some great ideas but each require more skill than I currently possess.. the learning curve is steep. hence why i'm here. Bartosz Białas ​@BartholomewJS what do you mean Sod Oscarfono ​I'm just venturing down the youtube path now. I'm focusing on health and wellness. Sod Oscarfono ​thanks @Xah Lee Kathy H ​thank you ZitronCrazy ​bye Xah BartholomewJS ​Goodbye Liokardo ​subscribe to xah lee Bartosz Białas ​bye Liokardo ​bye byeeeee Xah Lee Say something... 0/200