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mr Splendid
​Hello Xah. I like when you talk about shortcuts optimization, key sequences etc. What do you think about Minimak8 layout?

mr Splendid
​I found recently that ergodox-ez (and many popular spit diy keyboards) has not enough standard-sized keys for russian alphabet on right side :/

mr Splendid
​btw ergodox-ez has nice online layout configurator

meocats
​today's topic is richard stallman's parrot. Did they really engage in intercourse like he described? And what happened to the children? Is the FSF paying child support?

Xah Lee
​hey guys
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Xah Lee
​Xah Keyboard Guide http://xahlee.info/kbd/keyboarding.html

mr Splendid
​ergodox-ez has good number of keys but russian layout doesn't fit in witdth

mr Splendid
​of right half

GrinDeg
​Hi!

GrinDeg
​Thanks for advice in previous show, for not swapping ctrl and caps.

GrinDeg
​I actually had it swapped for 3 months. Now switched back

GrinDeg
​Why even switch from qwerty? is it that bad?

Pablo M
​Hi, Xah. What would you do if you didn't touch type and you wanted to learn? I mean, Dvorak/Qwerty, etc.

Pablo M
​(max efficiency; reasonable learning time)

randy enora
​interesting live

mr Splendid
​I have keyboard with onboard memory and ability to make macro, but I'm not satisfied with it.

Xah Lee
​Programable Keyboards with Onboard Memory http://xahlee.info/kbd/programable_ke...

mr Splendid
​my autohotkey do more advanced stuff compared to that keyboard's macroses

mr Splendid
​I have "tenkeyless masterkeys pro"

mr Splendid
​by Coolermaster

dingo dingeroo
​How do you feel about the colemak caps lock as backspace?

mr Splendid
​It's programmable features are not good

Pablo M
​Spain, Europe...

George
​Mac OS's version of colemak doesn't remap caps lock, so haven't tried it

Pablo M
​Ok thanks, I will

mr Splendid
​I just use it, because it's mechanical and tenkeyless, but i do not use it's macro functions

mr Splendid
​cm masterkeys macro sux

Pablo M
​Sure! Ok, so then I guess I would choose Dvorak, right?

Xah Lee
​Typing Tutorial, Speed Test, Typing Games http://xahlee.info/kbd/typing_tutoria...

Pablo M
​I see

Pablo M
​Thanks!

George
​George is from Perth Australia :)

mr Splendid
​it works like "record - play" bind to any key

mr Splendid
​it plays with the same speed as you pressed it

dingo dingeroo
​If you didn't type chinese would you consider colemak as an option?

mr Splendid
​I planned to buy ergodox till i found about rus. layout problem

George
​@dingo I use colemak+pinyin, it's fine

mr Splendid
​it has more advanced programmable behaviors

dingo dingeroo
​I find so many of the keys being in the same position on colemak a little confusing compared to dvorak when switching from qwerty at least

Ben jamin
​Colemak you can do copy/paste same as Qwerty so it is nice

dingo dingeroo
​USA, nothing special 😃

mr Splendid
​btw, I've binded copyand paste on extra mouse keys too

GrinDeg
​it's fine

Kathy H
​it's fine. we can tell

dingo dingeroo
​Those keys would still be fine if you remap control to caps lock, but then you don't get their backspace 😕

George
​Xah your advice about key combos fixed my rsi, I now always hit (ctrl/alt/shift) and (letter) with opposite hands

George
​dingo be careful about mapping caps to ctrl, it did bad things to my hands

Kathy H
​How about remapping caps to esc?

mr Splendid
​i have map caps to layout switch en/ru

George
​Not sure about mapping caps to esc, but my philosophy is use pinky finger as little as possible

Ben jamin
​Colemak has no caps to remap :(

dingo dingeroo
​I use it as escape / control but since I use vim keys I don't hold it all that often compared to emacs

Ben jamin
​You have to have money to see doctor?

GrinDeg
​My friend has pain in left pain. What advice can i give him? He's unlikely to switch layout or smth.

GrinDeg
​left hand*

dingo dingeroo
​How do you manage control or escape then George?

Kathy H
​I switched caps and esc eactly for evil/vim. Microsoft sculpt has shitty esc key :(.

George
​dingo I use default position, and always use 2 hands for keyboard combos

Xah Lee
​Mouse Reviews http://xahlee.info/kbd/mouse_index.html

George
​GrinDeg take a set of pliers and put out his left hand Ctrl /alt/shift (only kind of joking 🙃)

Ben jamin
​You can also use foot pedals for ctrl/alt

GrinDeg
​@Xah Lee My friend has pain in left hand. What advice can i give him? He's unlikely to switch layout or smth. As far as i know he uses many 3key shortcuts in some IDE

Ben jamin
​Scotland

George
​@Xah off topic: have you heard of Symphony OS / Andreas Kling?

George
​Sorry not Symphony OS, it's called Serenity OS

Pablo M
​And in Span you also have universal health care, BTW.

Ben jamin
​@GrinDeg If he uses foot pedals for ctrl/alt/shift/etc. then the pain will go away

GrinDeg
​@Ben jamin thx, i'll tell him

GrinDeg
​@Xah Lee thanks. I probably should do it too. I don't have any pain right now, but who knows

Pablo M
​I had RSI and it was frightening.

Pablo M
​and I did not even touch type!

Pablo M
​...just because of shortcuts.

dingo dingeroo
​Love the classic theme. All the flat design garbage these days drives me crazy

dingo dingeroo
​Thanks for the stream!

GrinDeg
​Thanks!

Kathy H
​thanks

Xah Lee
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