-*- coding: utf-8 -*- mat5ch ​hey xah and chat George ​Hi 👋 Xah Lee ​morn guys BartholomewJS ​Greetings, everyone. George ​Xah I'm surprised I didn't find a page on your website about Ted Nelson/Xanadu BartholomewJS ​Maybe Xanadu is too close to Xah. George ​What do you mean? BartholomewJS ​#13 Critique of OSS cloud solutions. Welcome to live chat! Remember to guard your privacy and abide by our community guidelines. BartholomewJS ​@George *Xa*nadu ~ *Xah*. BartholomewJS ​Open Source Software George ​I see George ​lol BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee You always say you think cloud open source solutions are stupid. Pablo M ​Hi. In the "cloud" you lose control. So what would be the point? Pablo M ​It only make sense for the people running the service, not for the customer. George ​Ted Nelson is on YouTube now. He feels like a cult leader houkensjtu ​Hello Xah George ​喵! GrinDeg ​Hello Justin Heyes-Jones ​hello all George ​I'm 31 mat5ch ​we like to hear rants tho xD houkensjtu ​I choose #10, how compiler works Justin Heyes-Jones ​I contribute to open source but I don't expect ever to make a penny lol George ​I found out today Richard stallman is still in charge of the gnu project. I thought gnu a project of the fsf but apparently not Justin Heyes-Jones ​@George that's good to know Pablo M ​@george the message saying that he was not in charge was duplicated (Sept. 27th and 28th), so the site was probably attacked or similar. mat5ch ​so, do people really base their decisions on using gnu software on RMS and the recent happenings? Justin Heyes-Jones ​Yeah I never agreed with RMS that all software should be free. There should be different kinds of licenses depending on needs Pablo M ​the messages were retired today. Justin Heyes-Jones ​@mat5ch probably they will loudly denounce him and still use all his work mat5ch ​yeah, thats the easiest route GrinDeg ​@Xah Lee how does it connect to Trump? Justin Heyes-Jones ​@GrinDeg WaPo is always saying that Trump is trying to destroy mainstream media when he calls out their fake stories GrinDeg ​@Justin Heyes-Jones ok, thank you, i don't know much about US politics GrinDeg ​@Xah Lee we laugh at it most of the time, but we definately like Trump more George ​Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) Justin Heyes-Jones ​I am in Canada an I laugh at TDS a lot too 😀 Pablo M ​@Xah No, read my comments Pablo M ​The comments were a few days ago, but not any more. Pablo M ​The comments were very suspicious, b/c they were repeated over several days without change. mat5ch ​it might be unsafe to bring up this topic, but whats your thoughts on the whole climate change topic? @Xah Lee /duck and go mat5ch ​it shakes up my country immensely right now Justin Heyes-Jones ​💣 Pablo M ​BOOOM George ​Where are you from mat5ch? mat5ch ​take a guess xD Pablo M ​(fortunately I'm far enough) George ​Sweden? mat5ch ​Germany Justin Heyes-Jones ​In Canada is a big topic because we have a lot of natural resources... logging, oil etc Justin Heyes-Jones ​There has to be a balance between jobs and economy and not changing the climate. But a lot of people are dumb and scream about the world ending in 10 years George ​I feel sorry for the Swedish girl, she doesn't seem balanced Justin Heyes-Jones ​@George How dare you! hahaha George ​😅 Ateshtesh ​There is an strong movement trying to modify the FSF from inside George ​I already got blasted by my wife for saying the swedish girl seems a bit off George ​Haha Pablo M ​@XahLee, if you want a _real_ fight I can invite you and rms to my house for a session. We can stream it. Don't worry, we have universal health care here. Justin Heyes-Jones ​They put a girl there instead of adults because if you ask her what is the solution she can just cry and say you are a bully Pablo M ​@george uuuuh, they are really close... mat5ch ​@Justin Heyes-Jones right. she seems to be a pretty good actress as well mat5ch ​not saying that she doenst believe what shes saying, but anyway Ateshtesh ​Coraline Ada the new Code of Conduct creator is making her own license. She wants to remove the freedom 0 https : // firstdonoharm . dev/ Pablo M ​My doctor says that if I don't answer @XahLee rants on FS then I'm cured. Pablo M ​Yes he is Justin Heyes-Jones ​@mat5ch her father is an actor so he probably gave her some tips Pablo M ​YESS Pablo M ​Yes he is Pablo M ​Probably that was the cause. Justin Heyes-Jones ​@Ateshtesh CoC is used to persecute people without progressive politics Pablo M ​@Justin Heyes-Jones Well, actualy anybody not fitting in the plan, even progressives (such as RMS) Justin Heyes-Jones ​@Pablo M haha true eventually they eat themselves Justin Heyes-Jones ​nobody can be woke enough Pablo M ​That's what I'm waiting for. Pablo M ​But it's taking too long... mat5ch ​😀 Pablo M ​😖 Justin Heyes-Jones ​Our super woke Canadian Prime Minister dressing as a black man is helping haha Pablo M ​Well, but that, if he does not fall, can be a shift in resistance Pablo M ​(in the meantime we can watch many christmas videos) Justin Heyes-Jones ​he won't fall because on the left is different rules to the right. instead the media are attacking people that released the pictures Justin Heyes-Jones ​but it does help highlight the hypocrisy Pablo M ​Oh, the mob perceive him as one of them... Ateshtesh ​@Justin Heyes-Jones COmpletly agree, they say are fighting for diversity, but they try to homologate the people thinking, and creating a idielogical filter with that CoC Pablo M ​Yes, the more ridiculous it looks, the more chance for it to become something to laugh at (the whole globan phenomenon I mean) Pablo M ​s/globan/global/ Justin Heyes-Jones ​@Ateshtesh nicely put and i learn a new word today "homologate" Pablo M ​It's a new religion, that maybe thrives because most people is not prepared to leave ancient religions without a replacement. Or that I believe (pun intended.) Pablo M ​s/is/are/ (sorry for my dreadful english) Justin Heyes-Jones ​@Pablo M np your english is good Pablo M ​thanks for your support, although it's not based in evidence ;-) Ateshtesh ​yeah is true, the recicling is a F**ing lie. the Canada goverment pretend be environment friendly but actually the move the trash to another side Justin Heyes-Jones ​penn and teller? Xing Tu ​penn and teller Pablo M ​Generalizing (beyond recycling), I suspect every official "advice" that they don't follow themselves for a start. Justin Heyes-Jones ​I have to go early, see you next time xah and all Pablo M ​Oh, I cannot post certain content... Pablo M ​Y T just blocks me GrinDeg ​@Xah Lee it's longer than month. Because in some places it actually gets colder mat5ch ​i try to sort my words and probably could state so much, but probably not in english.... Pablo M ​That's too much for me. No freedom, no talk. I'll just hear. Bye. Xah Lee ​https://twitter.com/CalebJHull/status... GrinDeg ​@Xah Lee about global warming GrinDeg ​the term BartholomewJS ​I'm back again. My connection was gone. mat5ch ​bye all Xah Lee Say something... 0/200