-*- coding: utf-8 -*- George ​Hi all dipi ​hi @George dipi ​good morning @Xah Lee George ​Suggested topic: toilets in Asia. The practicalities of using bidets. George ​🙃 dipi ​nice mat5ch ​hey all dipi ​hello @mat5ch George ​👋 Xah Lee ​morn guys Welcome to live chat! Remember to guard your privacy and abide by our community guidelines. League of Noobs ​its 9pm here , good day mat5ch ​xD George ​1am here, morning! mat5ch ​are u in russia? @League of Noobs League of Noobs ​actually italy, its 7 am but i am loosing eyesight and i thought was 9 League of Noobs ​7pm* Xah Lee ​xahlee club on discord. https://discord.gg/QYFcqNT mat5ch ​hehe nybo ​good evening guys dipi ​Didn’t Bart say something about having to skip this show? dipi ​not sure, @Xah Lee dipi ​it’s 19:00 in Nuremberg, Germany here dipi ​i’m just eating leftovers my auntie gave me, a Bavarian classic: Bratwürste mit Sauerkraut, yum mat5ch ​🤤 dipi ​RGB? No likey… dipi ​What if your employer won’t allow you your own keyboard? mat5ch ​its also kindy funny, for ergo reasons, keyboards actually should be tended from top to bottom, but the mainstream is just the other way around @Xah Lee dipi ​^tented? mat5ch ​i think its sloped mat5ch ​xD dipi ​oh ok George ​People prefer keyboard sloping forward for some reason George ​Most people only change after developing pain dipi ​Can prisoners choose their keyboard? :-P George ​😂 dipi ​»I want that keyboard with integrated steel file, please« Xah Lee ​JS: Find Window Size http://xahlee.info/js/js_viewport_dim... GrinDeg ​Hi Xah and chat 😃 dipi ​»Your view port size: 1906x1063« (using SeaMonkey, KDE, Linux) dipi ​^1920x1200 Eizo LCD GrinDeg ​Your screen size: 1920x1080 mat5ch ​Your screen size: 1920x1200, correctamundo dipi ​»Your screen size: 1920x1200« checks out maxirater ​Your view port size: 1398x864 Your screen size: 1920x1080 dipi ​Usually mod icons show with a blue wrench in chat nybo ​Your view port size: 1905x974 League of Noobs ​what do you think about python? GrinDeg ​python bad dipi ​ruby good nybo ​quake 3 good GrinDeg ​doom 2 best George ​*mathematica good dipi ​but expensive GrinDeg ​@Xah Lee you haven't set up a scene with just a webcam fullscreen? dipi ​^except for the RaspPi thing where Mathematice is supposed to be bundled dipi ​Gesundheit @Xah Lee dipi ​^bless you, because you sneezed; in Germany: Gesundheit (good health) dipi ​<-- love the space key to page through websites (it’s a Unix thing); also hate JavaScript for being able to intercept the space key on some evil websites Xah Lee ​Xah keyboard Blog http://xahlee.info/kbd/keyboard_blog.... GrinDeg ​This one looks cool dipi ​I like the hexagonal holes This message is held for review. shqip gamer ​fuck you GrinDeg ​He's a gamer, that's a problem already 😀 dipi ​troll is gone already; drive-by-trolling :-( mat5ch ​lol GrinDeg ​There is even a youtube show called "kickstarter crap" dipi ​For most hardware I still prefer trying in out in a local store dipi ​^it mat5ch ​it wasnt me ^^ mat5ch ​brb dipi ​<-- vim user, but using mouse and KDE window mgr otherwise GrinDeg ​@Xah Lee "don't use mouse" probably originated from people who learned computers when there were now mice dipi ​… or no computers :-= GrinDeg ​If there was a more modern version of acme editor, i probably would use it dipi ​»git checkout« should do it, maybe wrong directory? League of Noobs ​the space vs tab people dipi ​when I was young, those were the Amstrad vs Commodore C64 people, or Atari vs Amiga, hehe dipi ​some use CMS or gallery tools to automatically generate thumbnail preview image files Xing Tu ​Xah Lee thoughts on trackpads? the mac trackpad is a joy to use dipi ​I agree, @Xing Tu , Apple nailed it in that case dipi ​hence the need for some to use CMS (content management systems) like Typo3 @Xah Lee Xing Tu ​dipi i had slackware on my macbook air, but the trackpad experience was horrendous dipi ​using openSUSE, they package drivers for that @Xing Tu — another trick: use slackware in VirtualBox under macOS dipi ​… so many great-looking custom kbds … mat5ch ​are we IDE yet? mat5ch ​xD Xing Tu ​what's the package called, dipi? League of Noobs ​if i can ask this question, how to get good at proving stuff in math? I am having a lot of problems with linear Algebra with that part Xing Tu ​funny, i hate clicking sound of a mouse. but the rhythm of typing is pleasant dipi ​@Xing Tu I think they somehow use gsynaptics @Xing Tu … but it may be possible that KDE did the rest (three-finger gestures etc) dipi ​pretty cool, @Xah Lee — what program does the actual downscaling? I use ImageMagick package + RubyMagick gem Xing Tu ​dang, i'd prefer to use a standalone window manager. i'll look into it, though dipi ​@Xing Tu problem is, I have an iBook G3, a MacBook Air and a 2014 MacBook Retina, but all of them use VirtualBox to run Linux within macOS, so effectively I use Apple’s trackpad drivers mat5ch ​@dipi i have a 2012 mbp and osx is banned from it xD Ray T. ​Hi, Xah dipi ​hehe, I did that for a few months respectively, with Mandrake Linux, YellowDog and recently with Ubuntu; keep returning to macOS on mobile computers; but: Linux on home-built rig @mat5ch Xing Tu ​bye dipi ​<-- voting for after-show party Aaron Hall ​cheers! KingHerring ​SUP xah dipi ​@mat5ch do the Hackintosh folks still use rEFIt as a boot manager? Worked well for me mat5ch ​ive heard of it, also refind, but im not into hackintoshs actually KingHerring ​so chinese censorship isn't real? mat5ch ​im currently on an older mac pro, and my mbp is more or less a test machine nowadays xD @dipi dipi ​oh ok KingHerring ​but you could argue that those people have been propangandized since birth. like how americans do pledge of allegiance since elementary school. so asking people is not always the right thing KingHerring ​that's not true you just have to be brave lol dipi ​good point, @KingHerring — especially random anonymous people on the interwebs KingHerring ​also there's a reason they call us Commiefornia lol dipi ​hehe, that’s funny KingHerring ​well it's a bit different Xah. because if you criticize Xi you can be jailed. in the US if I say women & men are different, people will berate you and that is all dipi ​men and women are different — there, I said it. dipi ​equal rights and equal income doesn’t mean men and women are supposed to be biologically identical; that’s a right-wing myth dingo dingeroo ​Chinese government wouldn't allow the pope to appoint bishops in china, and actively fights against any Christian worship that isn't state sponsored. Sometimes they do things that /are/ actually bad. mat5ch ​u mentioned the social rating system, isnt this a real thing in China? @Xah Lee KingHerring ​I think the social rating system formally begins in December, you have to provide a chinese ID to use the internet dipi ​details do matter, also: evidence and quoting of sources KingHerring ​and they are banning other people using other people's SIM cards etc. dingo dingeroo ​@Xah Lee Why do you excuse the things China does, but are so hyper critical of everything the US does. They both do bad things and it's fine to point out bad things about both. dipi ​Atheist me happens to be on the same side as Christian @dingo dingeroo — scary :-) League of Noobs ​in italy it takes 5 years to build houses dingo dingeroo ​@dipi It's a human rights thing. I'd be against atheists being attacked as well. dipi ​I agree dipi ​WW2 superheros were very, very American, I agree dipi ​…but look at current graphic novels made in the US; very critical of American society dipi ​»Tu quoque« fallacy, @Xah Lee KingHerring ​I agree US propaganda exists and brainwashing exists. But nevertheless, that doesn't mean social control & authoritarianism can be justified League of Noobs ​isnt the eagle an old roman symbol? dingo dingeroo ​Difference is corporations doing it to appeal to a patriotic mass vs the government pushing it. Both can be considered annoying, but one is wrong Farzin F ​@Xah Lee I think you'd find that Liberal americans are biased AGAINST america Farzin F ​@Xah Lee mat5ch ​bye! dipi ​Are we patriots? Do we have to be patriots? dipi ​have a great weekend @Xah Lee Xah Lee Say something... 0/200