-*- coding: utf-8 -*- BartholomewJS ​Greetings, everyone. Xah Lee ​morn bart Welcome to live chat! Remember to guard your privacy and abide by our community guidelines. BartholomewJS ​#7 建諾 ​greetings xah Liam W ​good morning BartholomewJS ​Yes Liam W ​oh you still have the UHK GrinDeg ​Hi @Xah Lee and chat. BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee Now you need monk food. BartholomewJS ​@GrinDeg Greetings. GrinDeg ​@Xah Lee in only webcam scene it uses different mic(probably from the webcam) BartholomewJS ​Is it me or does Xah have worse sound quality? GrinDeg ​@Xah Lee thats better BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee Better. mat5ch ​hey @Xah Lee and chat BartholomewJS ​@mat5ch Greetings. GrinDeg ​@mat5ch hi 😃 GrinDeg ​@Xah Lee clicking sounds cool League of Noobs ​what BartholomewJS ​wat League of Noobs ​how do you get efficient with so many keys mat5ch ​^^ BartholomewJS ​@League of Noobs If every key has very long commands/macros then it can be pretty efficient. BartholomewJS ​Wow, this keypad has a BS button... @Xah Lee Reberti Soares ​i finnaly got you Xah Lee ​Best Numeric Keypads http://xahlee.info/kbd/keyboard_numbe... Reberti Soares ​why you use white themes @Xah Lee BartholomewJS ​@Reberti Soares Congratulations. League of Noobs ​You won Reberti Soares ​@BartholomewJS thanks Derek A ​morning everyone BartholomewJS ​@Derek A Greetings. Justin Heyes-Jones ​Morning Derek and all BartholomewJS ​@Justin Heyes-Jones Greetings. mat5ch ​morn Derek, morn Justin BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee You're too quiet. Derek A ​its better now BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee It's better again. mat5ch ​whats your opinion on "staying on the home row" on a keyboard? @Xah Lee mat5ch ​i tend to have my hands spread further than "recommended" xD BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee I really like NEO2's homerow. mat5ch ​my index fingers are not staying on the f and j keys mat5ch ​yes, mac full sized keyboard BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee I want to switch to NEO2 but I still didn't get ot a proper solution on how to change the keycaps or annotate them. I have a side-keyboard I changed to NEO2 but the keyboard is not as good. BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee Still have to decide for the best solution. BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee Yes, changing is trivial but there are no NEO2 keycaps, as far as I know. And NEO2 has 6 layers. League of Noobs ​they are so cool League of Noobs ​it is easy to change key caps ? League of Noobs ​is it* BartholomewJS ​@League of Noobs Yes, except of ultra slim keyboards, like laptop keyboards. BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee Look up the 6 layers of NEO2. winny ​tbh despite starting with a kinesis advantage qwerty-dvorak keyboard, with dvorak legends, it's not very useful to have layout specific keycaps, since one should touchtype anyway & mental-map them BartholomewJS ​@winny What if you are just learning it and need help? What if you are at some point very tired and don't think so well so you have to see what you are typing? winny ​drill every day, don't look at your hands, you'll never learn if you do look at your hands BartholomewJS ​@winny What if you have to do something seriously and have not time to "drill" ? winny ​then you're not serious about learning it 😃 invest some special time to learn, like you're learning a new skill BartholomewJS ​@winny Well, that's wrong. If you would be serious about everything like that, you would get actually nothing done... BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee What about Layer 6? You should love it. Kathy H ​@Xah Lee the way you program the keyboard looks very efficient. and mouse automatically clicking when moving outside browser Kathy H ​I actually agree, line trucating destroyed me again and again. BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee Never used/seen Neo1. BartholomewJS ​Neo is an ergonomic Keyboard layout, which is optimized for the German language. BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee It is NEO2. BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee I was TRANSLATING! 😂 mat5ch ​lol, that was just what u read @Xah Lee BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee Chill, I was just translating the web page. mat5ch ​or tried to read lol BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee Ebene = Layout BartholomewJS ​(or Level) BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee I heard that NEO2 is also usable for English. BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee Contrary to NEO1. meocats ​why doesnt elisp have tail call optimization like other functional lags? wtf? Justin Heyes-Jones ​maybe nobody cares enough that TCO is missing BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee Do the same without Emacs... Justin Heyes-Jones ​I think a lot of design decisions in emacs lisp were made because it is not a general purpose programming language, but an editor extension language with different needs meocats ​can TCO be easily transformed to loops? meocats ​automatically that is mat5ch ​stop drinking that shit @Xah Lee BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee Doing it your way to counter layers, is like tinkering hours on UNIX, which you supposedly hate. Be consistent with your opinions. BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee What do you say? "UNIX just does not work. Mac just works." Then I answer: "Layer 6 just works. Making own alternative does not work, it sux, F DIS NON-LAYOUT ALTERNATIVE!" Xah Lee Say something... 0/200