-*- coding: utf-8 -*- Ben jamin ​hi Ben jamin ​when is xah live scream? Xah Lee ​does it show in the vid screen? Xah Lee ​noon sf time. in 25 min @Ben jamin Xah Lee ​refresh browser. then, pick a topic, paste here BartholomewJS ​Greetings, everyone. BartholomewJS ​#9 BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee I set up a Raspberry Pi 3 A+ with Mathematica for Zitron. Do you have good ideas for the first program(s)? BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee What do you know about astronomical calculations? amz11995 ​#8 & #17 Freddy Freeman ​hey @all Xah Lee ​ok 9 is syntax and semantics of map Xah Lee ​8 is js foreach with break, with every/some Xah Lee ​12 is lang barrier, and sjgang. 😀 Xah Lee ​gonna do those 😀 Xah Lee ​12 -> 17 amz11995 ​Great. League of Noobs ​greetings Xah Lee ​@League of Noobs pick a topic League of Noobs ​Will ever artificial general intelligence exist? League of Noobs ​or How technology will change the workplace League of Noobs ​the 4th topic in desc BartholomewJS ​@League of Noobs Humans are so stupid, I wonder why we don't have AGI, yet already. Oh wait, I know why. Because peoples are invading the former countries of knowledge. League of Noobs ​xah workflow would be interesting to see being a young devop League of Noobs ​@BartholomewJS I am surprised we still exist as a spicies mat5ch ​het all mat5ch ​*hey BartholomewJS ​@mat5ch Greetings League of Noobs ​species* Ben jamin ​hi @mat5ch Ben jamin ​Can you talk about emacs lisp Kathy H ​talk about Raspberry Pi 3 A+ with Mathematica! Welcome to live chat! Remember to guard your privacy and abide by our community guidelines. Kathy H ​I am interested too amz11995 ​Xah, if you run out of topics, I would be also interested in #10, but it would be already my 3rd picked topic. BartholomewJS ​@Kathy H Greetings and thank you for the heads up. 😁 BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee installed* BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee It is already up and running. Xah Lee ​Wolfram Language, Mathematica http://xahlee.info/M/index.html BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee To specify your expression more clearly and correctly: you can download "NOOBS" which includes Mathematica for free. It is an installer for the Raspberry Pi. Kathy H ​@BartholomewJS I've been watching Pi for a while, can't really think of any other purpose other than Mathmatica to me BartholomewJS ​@Kathy H I use it for many things. If you want we could have a chat about that at some point, off scream. Ben jamin ​is community college like the TV show? Community mc read ​Excellent product Mathematica . Ben jamin ​you know you can do graphing with emacs-calc? Ben jamin ​and symbolic calculation mc read ​And the best thing about the ocmpany behind it is that I think it is still not a public company .. nybo ​xah, do you know sagemath? Ben jamin ​sagemath is free? nybo ​yy, i currently use it xD Ben jamin ​CD is very old fashioned nybo ​just for doing some simple stuff, not sure if its good for advanced stuff Freddy Freeman ​just try using the sage notebook without going insane... it is sooo annoying, too many things to list BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee What do you mean you don't know Github? nybo ​free software triggers xah xD Freddy Freeman ​but sage without the notebook is fine for me though Ben jamin ​You have to be advanced user to use sage mc read ​Xah had some hard time in the early 2000s , maybe this is why he hates this web design 😃 mat5ch ​@Xah Lee do u think its wrong to donate for foss so that they keep on with their unsustainable business? xD Freddy Freeman ​well sorry but github is very well known, and also virtualbox images, if they are going to program in it they have at least heard of those things BartholomewJS ​@Freddy Freeman I thought the same. mc read ​looks like a website made by guys who never left their office at the university ... Freddy Freeman ​my mum is not going to use sagemath. Ben jamin ​It is simple, you just go to github and compile windows binary in virtual box Ben jamin ​what is so hard? BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee It is from programmers for programmers. I really think you should get over that. I don't expect your mom to be interested in SageMath or whatever programming, at all. BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee Why does some facebook noob need to know how to download this niche program? amz11995 ​Maybe selecting a server changes the links below. mat5ch ​omg BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee After you reading out loud their page and what download possibilities they have to offer, I am tempted to check out SageMath. They must be doing something right. Freddy Freeman ​i agree though that the website is pretty badly designed. and the "sagenotebooK" is just incredibly bad designed. but the jargon itself is not hard amz11995 ​After such energetic introduction I'm also tempted to try Sage just to find out how their download page actually works. BartholomewJS ​@Freddy Freeman It is indeed designed badly but the options and possibilities in principle, are not bad. It's just presented the wrong way. BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee Speaking of design. I found the Mathematica website very hard to follow... It is "badly designed" from my experience. As I did not find the stuff I was looking for, easily. BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee On the other hand, Sage website is ugly but ez to follow. And I like all the options. nybo ​little did i know that xah was an ux expert all along Ben jamin ​Free software does not care what outsiders want, they just care what they want. It's made for and by the programmers who write it amz11995 ​^ +1 amz11995 ​Xah, we get what you meant about Github. 😃 Ben jamin ​They are not selling anything This message is held for review. BartholomewJS ​@Ben jamin That is what is amazing about it. Capitalism usually forces you to lick your audience's a**. Whereas open source is one of the very few ways to express what you or a small community desires BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee Did you check out opencollective and how much donations go through this portal every single day? BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee "Nobody actually donate" is a wrong statement. BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee Pretty much everyone I know already donated here and there. amz11995 ​🕑 nybo ​are donations tax deductible in us? Ben jamin ​What is sun microsystem? amz11995 ​The download page is bad, because the web designer is paid from donations. ↻ nybo ​omg, lol! topic 13 pls nybo ​some quck comments nybo ​quick Ben jamin ​I thought @Xah Lee was also nerd? Ben jamin ​but he hate nerd? BartholomewJS ​He hates himself. amz11995 ​He transcended the nerd and went to next level. Freddy Freeman ​well.. oh boy i just tried downloading sage from the website and when i click on the mirror for the unviersity in berlin only some file "index.html" is downloaded 🤣 sage itself is great though 😛 Freddy Freeman ​it is quite comfortable to be able to use python for cryptologcial algorithms BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee Don't tell me I'm wrong. Prove me wrong. Show me the data. Ben jamin ​0.0001% donate to wikipedia Kathy H ​Don't even start the wikipedia discussion😂 another 20 minutes ranting material for xah amz11995 ​He basically thinks that donations are nothing compared to big company sponsorship in opensource. amz11995 ​I think Xah might be starting to channel T. A. Davis. BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee You rant now a lot and say we are wrong. Can you list your citations please? Ben jamin ​wow mark zuk is generous BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee Why do you expect only normal people and not companies to donate and sponsor, when half of the world has the same amount of money as the 80 richest people on earth? mat5ch ​i wonder how basic income would and could change foss development hm BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee If you are opencollective and AirBnB is giving you a donation. Would you refuse? BartholomewJS ​@mat5ch The biggest irony and elephant in the room is that Xah Lee would profit EXTREMELY from what he hates. 😁 mat5ch ​😀 BartholomewJS ​@mat5ch UBI would save his ass and he could start a new happy life. Whereas now he is poor af and barely gets enough food. Because of the system he loves. BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee Do you find it normal that 80 people have the same amount of money as the other half of the world? How is that not making a huge point? BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee In this system you have no choice but to accept the dirty money. That said, money does not stink. Ben jamin ​Would you take the 100k if there was zero risk? amz11995 ​It's good to take money from gangsters, because they have less funds for evildoing. Jānis Mancēvičs ​😀 BartholomewJS ​@amz11995 Usually they invest it though, multiplying their money. amz11995 ​Yes, donations can be used to improve image, and that's an investment. mat5ch ​lmao Jānis Mancēvičs ​[message retracted] BartholomewJS ​@amz11995 I agree. BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee Yes that is the point. Do you find it ok that corps do what is displayed in the video? BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee Basically your argument against the video: "everyone does it, so it's fine." Freddy Freeman ​which video? @BartholomewJS mat5ch ​the dark army got him mat5ch ​@BartholomewJS plz try to post the link Kathy H ​xah's point of ranting is to raise awareness. To use his over dramatic rage to tell everyone who cares to remain angry.... This message is held for review. BartholomewJS ​@mat5ch @Freddy Freeman fOmjIpvl0cg BartholomewJS ​@mat5ch @Freddy Freeman Tried posting the the link.... amz11995 ​Let's get it out of the way: R. Stallman is the kind of person, who eats skin of his foot in public. BartholomewJS ​@mat5ch @Freddy Freeman You can see it in Xah's chat. Liokardo ​Post the end of the link mat5ch ​thx BartholomewJS ​@amz11995 Sounds attractive. Ben jamin ​what is wrong with ideology? BartholomewJS ​Xah cult This message is held for review. Freddy Freeman ​fOmj + ipvl0cg ? amz11995 ​Xah, you are not too zen for a Chinese. Chill. 😉 Freddy Freeman ​video unavailable BartholomewJS ​@amz11995 Believe it or not: he is still chill, compared to the real Xah. mat5ch ​@Xah Lee plz show the snippet that Bart has posted TrickyMind1 ​blizzard BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee I posted it... Unhide it... Xah Lee ​https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOmjI... , Fire Bobby Kotick (The Jimquisition), Feb 18, 2019, by Jim Sterling Freddy Freeman ​i tried the link but it was unavaialble Freddy Freeman ​ok nvm got a L instead of I BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee His liver should be eaten by birds every day, then over night the liver should regrow and the next morning the birds should pick it again. This should go on forever. Liokardo ​he did post, press show button BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee Have you ever looked at Tencent? mat5ch ​is it the Chinese Blackrock? @BartholomewJS Freddy Freeman ​@mat5ch no, tencet is more like the chinese facebook/google Freddy Freeman ​alphabet i mean mat5ch ​i had to google it. i see @BartholomewJS BartholomewJS ​@mat5ch I guess Freddy addresses the correct direction. While Blackrock is only financially interested, Tencent takes on all big branches of industry. mat5ch ​@Freddy Freeman xD mat5ch ​thx Kathy H ​xah should publish a Trilogy of Critique of Pure Reason, Critique of Practical Reason, Critique of Judgment, transferring from PROgrammer to philosopher as a sustaining GNU/tech obeserver 😂 Freddy Freeman ​ohyea BartholomewJS ​@Kathy H That'd be indeed perfect. Ben jamin ​Are you Trump fan @BartholomewJS? BartholomewJS ​@Ben jamin It was always hard for me to be fanatic about anything. I can just tell you, that I don't believe most displays of what Trump is supposed to be in the mainstream media. BartholomewJS ​@Ben jamin I am more neutral about him. In some points I hate him, in some points I think he is right. BartholomewJS ​@Ben jamin 1. most common error many people do: only watch short snippets of his speeches. If you listen to his whole speeches (what I sometimes did) he is far less aggressive and stupid, as people BartholomewJS ​@Ben jamin Try to make him look like. amz11995 ​Came for the topics, got a plan for next month. BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee You even drink Raspberry, yet you barely mentioned it. Ben jamin ​@BartholomewJS What do you think about Xi Jinping? Liokardo ​What should Free Software be *used for?* BartholomewJS ​Soon up again, apparently there is an error there right now. BartholomewJS ​@Ben jamin Do you see the link regarding xahtalk? Freddy Freeman ​yay for nuts Freddy Freeman ​yay for good fats Ben jamin ​Xi made China a good economy amz11995 ​Race matters are easy way to get political support. BartholomewJS ​@Ben jamin The website is up again. BartholomewJS ​Whoever want to have detailed discussions about anything BartholomewJS ​Visit xahtalk ml amz11995 ​Thanks. Freddy Freeman ​cya mat5ch ​cu BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee Rant on in your dreams this night. Freddy Freeman ​haha Kathy H ​bye Freddy Freeman ​well that was interesting, good to see some alternative perspectives 😃 Freddy Freeman ​goodbye guys cya next time Xah Lee Say something... 0/200