-*- coding: utf-8 -*- BartholomewJS ​Greetings, everyone. Xah Lee ​hi Bart Xah Lee ​hi guys. start 5 min late BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee You didn't tell me how much you will owe me once my post will be approved. BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee Topic: Abstract Syntax Tree Hello beautiful people! ​Hello beautiful people! BartholomewJS ​@Hello beautiful people! BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee Alive. Emily ​Morning xah BartholomewJS ​@Emily Greetings zumwelt zumleben ​good morning everyone BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee I already typed a topic.. Emily ​This is a writing system I made BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee There is a topic you don't know? Emily ​Senary BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee F# Emily ​I explained them in the discord Emily ​My number system, time system and writing system Emily ​Sure! Odd-Harald Myhren ​xah hows your economic situation now George ​I think base 12 would have more divisibility Odd-Harald Myhren ​compared to before where everything went to hell Emily ​Base 12 prime decomposition is 2 2 3 - you don't need to 2 two's Emily ​But many people to use base 12 Emily ​It is Emily ​Each character is a combination of 2 lines Emily ​I'm often to critisism Emily ​*open Emily ​Actually - you use the line on paper to discern characters zumwelt zumleben ​korean handles combination of characters pretty well Emily ​So you can easily see if a line starts above, on, or below the line zumwelt zumleben ​or at least i think so George ​Sexagesimal like the Sumerians would be a good compromise Emily ​24 hour Welcome to live chat! Remember to guard your privacy and abide by our community guidelines. Emily ​I do use is every day Emily ​I crossed it out as I should have been eating dinner George ​Emily is source code available for your watch face? Emily ​It is not currently - but I can do so Phundrak ​It reminds me of stenography Emily ​:) Emily ​I am learning stenography actually George ​I'm interested in making a watch face that's 12 hours between sunrise and sunset, like most ancient civilisations Emily ​the 24 hour design of my time system and watch was a key consideration Emily ​so the purple hand is exactly how far through the day am i zumwelt zumleben ​have you seen those new ergodox inspired keyboards that are based entirely on chords? i think they also released a stenography split board. its called gergo zumwelt zumleben ​i forget what the steno one was called Emily ​yes by g-board industries Emily ​i own one Emily ​Georgi: Steno For All zumwelt zumleben ​how do you like it? i was thinking about getting one as a travel board zumwelt zumleben ​i like the thumb cluster placement Emily ​i really quite like it actually - but learning steno is really quite difficult - espesically at any sort of reasonable speed zumwelt zumleben ​yeah i can see that, my wpm would probably tank to like 6 lol zumwelt zumleben ​more of a novelty maybe Emily ​for sure Emily ​the Georgi is specifically for steno - and you shouldn't really use it for normal typing in my opinion, while it is possible it's not the best Emily ​just stick with a more standard travel keyboard :) Emily ​@Xah Lee - for me, 0 is at the top Emily ​while it would make sense for 0 to be at the bottom such that day-time is at the top of the dial, i found it to be strange if the gap was at the bottom George ​Just wear your watch upside down. Problem fixed Emily ​🤔 BartholomewJS ​@Emily What's your Github? Emily ​i don't have one - i host my own git instance that doesn't run a web GUI Emily ​but i should really set one up actually BartholomewJS ​@Emily You beat yourself to be nerdy, I figure. BartholomewJS ​@Emily Use Gitea. BartholomewJS ​I use Gitea since over a year and am very satisfied with it. BartholomewJS ​Best self-hosted Git server. Emily ​i'll have a lok at it actually - but i did it more of a hacky way - with ssh key authorisation for different linux accounts Emily ​it just means there is no overhead Emily ​because i wouldn't use the web interface BartholomewJS ​Gitea is very resource friendly. I run it on my Raspberry Pi 3B+ BartholomewJS ​@Emily It is pretty fast, the only thing that makes it a bit slow are my 15 years old HDDs where I store my repositories. Phundrak ​Yup Gitea is really ressource effective Hello beautiful people! ​@Xah Lee JavaScript would be nice. Emily ​oh cool - i'll have a look at it for sure! - when ever i get around to re-setting up my server again Emily ​@Xah Lee - the longest hand is the hour hand George ​In the watchface I want to build daylight would be divided between 12 hours. I.e length of an hour would fluctuate between summer and winter. Emily ​@Xah Lee - i have the Georgi - the smaller stenography one by the same guy George ​And night would be divided into 3 or 4 "watches" Emily ​^^ this is the steno one zumwelt zumleben ​wait till he sees the Georgi lmao Emily ​gitea - self-hosted git instance thingy Emily ​longest is the hour hand as that is the most important, then middle is minute hand, then shortest for second hand as it's the least important BartholomewJS ​"My opinion of this is crap." - Xah Lee, 2019 zumwelt zumleben ​Good lord I can't imagine how long it would take to get fast on that thing Hello beautiful people! ​@Xah Lee According to Mirabai Knight ( known steno typer ) The school for stenography is many many years long (2 or 3 or 4 if I remember correctly) And most of the people are not able to reach 225 WPM Emily ​^^ i second that - sounds very familiar Hello beautiful people! ​@Xah Lee 225 WPM is required speed to be certified as stenographer..... and it is a long test... multiple sheets of papers. Hello beautiful people! ​@Xah Lee Mirabai Knight is also proponent of programming using steno. Her's demonstrations of that on youtube are pretty impressive. Emily ​WOW hhkb isn't that bad :p George ​I don't think phonetic system would be good for programming. Programming is visual so character based would be better zumwelt zumleben ​Oh god, I tried a 40% layout and didn't last more than a day Emily ​steno works with a dictionary in the background - so you can just set a keychord to input some programming text Emily ​like you could have "prt" to stand for python-print - and it could input "print("")" for example Alan W ​helllo Emily ​alan! Hello beautiful people! ​👋 Alan W ​lolol strong language about boards with buttons! Hello beautiful people! ​@Alan W Yep... You came to the right place 😀 George ​What else did you expect Alan 😂 zumwelt zumleben ​let's come up with the ultimate ergonomic and efficient keyboard design Emily ​yes Emily ​that's basically my free time zumwelt zumleben ​the piano is more efficient but it would seriously hurt the wrists after a while zumwelt zumleben ​maybe something with the same concave design as a kinesis, but the keys are positioned for regular finger placement, including thumbs, maybe split to solve the arm alignment issue George ​I think one thing that makes the x-bows keyboard so great is most keys are in their normal place zumwelt zumleben ​like kinesis piano lol George ​It makes it much less intimidating Emily ​uni-xah-cle Calvin Junge ​why not an EEG keyboard that reads inputs from electrodes running from your brain Calvin Junge ​you can't type faster than you can think Emily ​transhumanism goals Alan W ​in my childhood my parents let me buy a unicycle and learn to ride Alan W ​it is not so bad Alan W ​lolol yes xah is mumbling many transhumanist thoughts today @Emily zumwelt zumleben ​now that is endgame efficiency Alan W ​HABIT IS THE ENEMY WHY NOT REWIRE FOR EFFICIENCY Alan W ​beep boop bop Emily ​i've always said i would love to get a USB port as a cyborg enhancement as i could type at brain speed zumwelt zumleben ​plug the computer directly into your brainstem lol Emily ​exactly! Calvin Junge ​yes like an adapter that hooks up your brain to usb or thunderbolt Emily ​but like the informational output of a human body is so limited as we have to like move fingers and all Alan W ​@Xah Lee string players (like guitarists) often retune their instruments to be more efficient for certain styles of play Alan W ​For example standard tuning is EADGBE, bout many finger style players will do DADGAD for easier access to open D chords n stuff Emily ​lojban!!! - i've leant that BartholomewJS ​@Emily I knew it. BartholomewJS ​@Emily So I did not ask if you did. Emily ​What to you mean you knew it :p BartholomewJS ​@Emily How fluent are you in it? Emily ​Hehehe BartholomewJS ​@Emily Whoever invents their own writing system, almost implies to at least know Lojban. Emily ​Not overly - but I can get by Emily ​Been a while since I've used it Emily ​Haha BartholomewJS ​@Emily My friend and me are learning it slowly. Emily ​Ohno - I've been outed Emily ​Yooo that's so cool Emily ​If I can help or join in in some way I'd love to :) BartholomewJS ​@Emily You are a freak dough BartholomewJS ​@Emily We'd love you to join. Actually he doesn't know you but I told him you are a nerd. Emily ​;-; Emily ​:o BartholomewJS ​@Emily He asked for the sauce of EmScript. Emily ​I'm famous? Emily ​:D BartholomewJS ​@Emily Certainly among Xah's mind, as he starts every recent stream with you. Emily ​Yeah - so it seems BartholomewJS ​@Emily Today, your own writing system.. @Xah Lee What Emily thing will you start the next stream with? Alan W ​so is the conclusion of this discussion that we should lift weights adn eat vegetables? BartholomewJS ​@Alan W Xah cult members only drink juice and energy drinks. Kathy H ​I agree with the efficient piano typing style. Someone criticized Emacs keybindings are hard to use. but it's nothing compared with even entry level panio playing... BartholomewJS ​@Kathy H Greetings, nice to see you. BartholomewJS ​@Emily If you like, you can join xahtalk_ml Xah Lee ​https://discord.gg/Xm53m8u xah discord Kathy H ​@BartholomewJS hi back BartholomewJS ​Replace the underscore with a dot. Emily ​Where is that bart? BartholomewJS ​@Emily Internet 😂 Xah Lee Say something... 0/200