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Xah Lee
​hey emily

Xah Lee
​guys, should it be misc emacs lisp coding, or should it be javascript + svg rotating polyhedron?

BartholomewJS
​Greetings, everyone.

BartholomewJS
​It should be rotating Xah in a polyhedron.

Emily
​bart!

BartholomewJS
​@Emily !!!

Emily
​nice to see you again :p

BartholomewJS
​Thanks, you too. Hard to catch you.

Alan W
​hola

Emily
​yoyo

Emily
​time to make a hot-choc and get cosy for the show

League of Noobs
​hola

Alan W
​look at this UK person spell "cozy" as "cosy"

Emily
​:)

BartholomewJS
​@Alan W Precisely.

Alan W
​@BartholomewJS how u doin?

Xah Lee
​am late. getting on in 5 min

BartholomewJS
​@Alan W Fine you? Some people should answer your Emacs question on the forum.

Emily
​now my hoc-choc is gonna be cool and less frothy ;-;

Alan W
​@Barf

Alan W
​whoops

BartholomewJS
​I decided to rename my forum to "Elite Xah Club", because it's only for the smart cult members. Stupid ones will only be in Discord.

Alan W
​@BartholomewJS I'll have to go there and read/write more paragraphs later today 😃

Alan W
​no barf

Emily
​how rood /s
Welcome to live chat! Remember to guard your privacy and abide by our community guidelines.

Emily
​good morning xah

Alan W
​@BartholomewJS i don't know about smart vs dumb, but inflammatory rhetoric can be fun 😛

League of Noobs
​javascript xD

Alan W
​cheers!

Emily
​cheers!

BartholomewJS
​@Xah Lee It's not gonna work. Give up. Linux rules. Go use Linux.

Alan W
​@BartholomewJS u should try windows; windows rules

Alan W
​😃

BartholomewJS
​@Xah Lee Then pay for .com if you want to. ML is free. I set it up temporarily to check how it works, etc.

BartholomewJS
​@Xah Lee When I gather enough people I will improve and work on the forum.

Hello beautiful people!
​Hello beautiful people!

Alan W
​Hello @Hello beautiful people! 😃

Emily
​hello beautiful person!

BartholomewJS
​Who wants to prove Xah wrong with me?

BartholomewJS
​@Xah Lee Btw. you owe me. My OCaml forum post got APPROVED. As I told you. You owe me.

Ram Prasad
​[message retracted]

Ram Prasad
​"undecidable" -- haha

Alan W
​js is good

Alan W
​emacs hook to run node code? @Xah Lee

Ram Prasad
​+1 for

BartholomewJS
​@Xah Lee It is one of the couple free domains everyone can use. Nothing special. As I said, everything is temporary for now and will be improved. The forum will live.

Ram Prasad
​emacs + javascript +1

BartholomewJS
​@Xah Lee If you miss me so much on Discord, go set up Linux and I will join Discord.

Emily
​😲

Emily
​what is that emoji

Emily
​\:o

Emily
​agh

Hello beautiful people!
​🙌 Javascript

Hello beautiful people!
​🎉

Alan W
​@Xah Lee i resent my polyhedra rotate thing to Discord

Ram Prasad
​Hi everybody I have been a avid reader of Xah's emacs tutorials. This is my first LIVE Video session.

Alan W
​has the basic logic to mouse drag and rotate

Alan W
​sup @Ram Prasad 😃

Xah Lee
​SpaceNavigator 3d Mouse http://xahlee.info/kbd/SpaceNavigator...

Hello beautiful people!
​hi @Ram Prasad

BartholomewJS
​@Ram Prasad Welcome to the cult.

Emily
​welcome ram :)

Hello beautiful people!
​@Ram Prasad you start by giving money to @Xah Lee 😉

Ram Prasad
​Hello everybody.

Emily
​hbp 🤔

Ram Prasad
​Let me do that using his PayPal link 😃

Nabi Yang
​i just started the stream. did he talk about the flying mouse from lawn mower man? 😛

Hello beautiful people!
​🤷 😃

Hello beautiful people!
CZK 100.00

Supporting Xah.... (Just putting money where my mouth is 😉 )

Emily
​🙀

Alan W
​xah its there check discord @Xah Lee

Alan W
​just resent link

Hello beautiful people!
​⬆That cat looks scared.

Emily
​is supposed to be screaming with excitement or something idk

Emily
​looks much better on the stream

Hello beautiful people!
​yep.

Ram Prasad
​Gave my lunch money to Xah today -- worth every $. Thank you!!!

Alan W
​threejs is a higher level api over webgl

Emily
​💜Ram

Ram Prasad
​Hahaha

Alan W
​"..WebGL is a very low-level system that only draws points, lines, and triangles. To do anything useful with WebGL generally requires quite a bit of code and that is where three.js comes in..."

Hello beautiful people!
​@Ram Prasad please take care of your self first!

Ram Prasad
​F**k openGL.

Alan W
​@Ram Prasad take care of yourself before you study monads

Alan W
​xah dabs on ur monads

Hello beautiful people!
​😂

Emily
​what happened to that 'femenine voice' xah said he'd start doing :P

Alan W
​@Xah Lee "gofmt urself" - Hacker Types

Nabi Yang
​1 ❤ lua

Nabi Yang
​most say 0. i like 1

Alan W
​for arrays, either is okay, it is culture and convention

Emily
​0 or1 doesn't really matter as long as i know which it is

Ram Prasad
​I have crossed the path to 0 so far back I think I will be confused.

Nabi Yang
​languages that allow you to index from the end using -1 aren't symmetrical if they start with 0

Nabi Yang
​that really annoys me

Nabi Yang
​i read dijkstra's essay on starting at 0. i didn't find it convincing either

Josh TheCoolGuy
​aight. so..... you eating chicken nuggets from Mcdonalds Ranch or BBQ?

Alan W
​bbq

Emily
​bbq

Alan W
​:C

Hello beautiful people!
​Looks like today's topic is "Mention JavaScript and then rand on Math" 😀

Hello beautiful people!
​*rant

Emily
​hehehe

Kathy H
​definately gaining more people

Emily
​mike hoi

BartholomewJS
​@Kathy H Greetings, nice to see you.

Alan W
​hi @Kathy H 😃

Emily
​keyy kathy

Kathy H
​@BartholomewJS hi Bart!

Emily
​*heyy

Hello beautiful people!
​hi @Kathy H

FichDichInDemArsch
​Hello, @Xah Lee. Hello, All!

Alan W
​@Kathy H how do the numbers 0 and 1 make you feel?

Alan W
​sup @FichDichInDemArsch

Emily
​heya finch

Hello beautiful people!
​@FichDichInDemArsch I actually know what your nickname means in German 😈

Kathy H
​I am studying statistics (machine learning) stuff, starting from 0 is definately weird to us😂..@Alan W

FichDichInDemArsch
​Hahaha :D

Emily
​0 makes sense from a lisp perspective as you have the car and cdr (address and data)

Xing Tu
​not hard to figure out

Alan W
​@Xah Lee I would add that "hacker types" are trapped in a particular model of the world; but this sort of behavior is very common across many kinds of subcultures

Alan W
​its just that hacker types tend to be mid-high to high intelligence, so they think they are always right]

Alan W
​esp. if they get paid well lol

FichDichInDemArsch
​I don't mind either 0-index or 1-index, so long as it is consistent!

Nabi Yang
​tabs or spaces? vim or emacs? 0 or 1? lolol

Hello beautiful people!
​@Xah Lee What about talking little bit on "trackball vs mouse"

Kathy H
​@Hello beautiful people! Good to see you!

Alan W
​@Nabi Yang either is okay, whatever is default - Your local resident cockroach 😛

Emily
​@Xah Lee - trackball vs mouse +1

Nabi Yang
​no alan. you're supposed to take a side in the holy wars and be an angry programmer!

FichDichInDemArsch
​or mouselss? 😀

Alan W
​@Nabi Yang I use evil mode in emacs; I have peace 😃

Kathy H
​trackball +2😎

FichDichInDemArsch
​I am thinking of giving evil mode a shot myself, @Alan W

Alan W
​#money-can't-buy-monads

Nabi Yang
​my lead loves pointing out that people who use spaces make more money 9_9

Emily
​🤔

Nabi Yang
​it was an unscientific analysis done on stack overflow

Alan W
​eliminating backward compatibility -> simplified chinese characters 对不对？

FichDichInDemArsch
​Hahaha

Alan W
​@Xah Lee no JavaScript cultural revolution, destroying the venerable olds

Alan W
​we must honor the convoluted DOM and web standards

Alan W
​if u abandon ur heritage, you will be punished

Alan W
​@FichDichInDemArsch evil is really nice for me; I like how I can still use emacs things like dired, RSS feeds, M-x blahblah, while still being able to seemlessly switch to vim

Alan W
​for example when using somebody else's computer

Alan W
​plus if you use other editors, e.g. VS Code, there are pretty decent vim binding modes

Alan W
​once xah fly keys comes to vs code though, the tides of fortune may change

FichDichInDemArsch
​Indeed, @Alan W ... Vim bindings are super-nice for navigating and editing.

Emily
​but lisp syntax ;-;

Emily
​what does xah not have an article on

FichDichInDemArsch
​Hahaha @Emily

Alan W
​"LIKE LIKE LIKE" - Xah Zuckerberg

Hello beautiful people!
​well.... we did not finish to finish to talk about the JS rotation..... on the other hand we did not really start on it neither 😀

Emily
​xah is not formal 🤔what a suprise

Hello beautiful people!
​wonder If I'm also that chaotic 🤔

Hello beautiful people!
​@Emily 😀 🎉

Alan W
​discussing flight simulators is height speech

Emily
​you're somewhat chaotic

FichDichInDemArsch
​Yup.. yaw.. .like a fish

Emily
​🐟

FichDichInDemArsch
​😂

Alan W
​Fork Knife, CS Golang

FichDichInDemArsch
​First Person shooters?

Emily
​nice held comment there alan

Nabi Yang
​quake

Nabi Yang
​hexen

runneypo
​quake?

Emily
​hahaha

Nabi Yang
​quake came after doom. same company

FichDichInDemArsch
​Yup....

Alan W
​omg xah fps

Alan W
​so mobile in chair

Alan W
​dodges

Hello beautiful people!
​🎣➡🐟 ➡ 🥗

Alan W
​not fish, not bash, batsh 😠 @BartholomewJS

Emily
​batch

Hello beautiful people!
​🦇💩

Emily
​ohno

Alan W
​^crazy

Emily
​i'm not crazy!

Hello beautiful people!
​🤡

Alan W
​🦇 💩 crazy

Alan W
​idiom lol

Emily
​😛 ik ik

FichDichInDemArsch
​😓

Hello beautiful people!
​That should be the logo.... It would be VERY memorable

FichDichInDemArsch
​I love some meth myself

Emily
​does xah have 2 potatoes on the floor behind him? 🤔

FichDichInDemArsch
​LOL

Alan W
​@Emily they are there to demonstrate principles of perspective

Hello beautiful people!
​@Emily 🍎 maybe ?

Alan W
​@Xah Lee move the potatoes closer to the camera to demonstrate 3D/perspective principles

Hello beautiful people!
​@Alan W 🤣

Alan W
​do it!!!

Emily
​^^^

FichDichInDemArsch
​Hahaha... this room is really on fire today

Hello beautiful people!
​@Xah Lee Move the potatoes!

Emily
​we need to understand 3D perspective

Alan W
​@Xah Lee why are the potatos in the room smaller than your eye glasses? How can that be?

Hello beautiful people!
​@Xah Lee Use the potatoes!

Alan W
​Maybe they are baby potatoes?

Emily
​tiny potaties - bite size

Emily
​smol snacc

Hello beautiful people!
​we will never know until shown in front of camera.

Emily
​how do xah's hands keep getting bigger and smaller like that

Alan W
​oooooooooooo

Hello beautiful people!
​@Emily I blame Chinese food.

FichDichInDemArsch
​Xah's going to be super confused when he replays the chat transcript!

Emily
​almost as confused as we are to these strange occurances that we don't understand

Alan W
​we are just weebs that understand 2D

Alan W
​😞

FichDichInDemArsch
​He protecc.. he attacc... but most importanly, he has potatoe

FichDichInDemArsch
​in the bacc

Hello beautiful people!
​@FichDichInDemArsch 🤣🤣🤣

Alan W
​@Xah Lee r u modelling a potato there?

Hello beautiful people!
​Potatoman!

Alan W
​@Xah Lee pick up a potato from behind you and rotate it in front of the screen

Alan W
​we are struggling to understand these concepts

Alan W
​you have an example!!!!! 😃

Emily
​not the example we need to understand

Alan W
​fake lid drone, show us the potatoes behind u]

Alan W
​I believe in blender you can constrain/change the view in many ways that are useful to you

FichDichInDemArsch
​Uh oh....

Alan W
​oooooooooooooooo

Alan W
​oooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Alan W
​ooooooooooooooooo

Emily
​HAHAHA

Emily
​omgomgomg

Alan W
​omg juggling

Hello beautiful people!
​Yeeeeeeey!

Emily
​:DDD

League of Noobs
​pears can be so big?

Hello beautiful people!
​@League of Noobs .... perspective 😉

FichDichInDemArsch
​Is this the start of a porno?

Emily
​juicy pears, when i drop the the juice comes out

Emily
​- xah 2019

Hello beautiful people!
​@FichDichInDemArsch maybe it is end.

BartholomewJS
​Everyone: Don't forget to joine the ELITE Xah Club.

Hello beautiful people!
​@Emily 😀

FichDichInDemArsch
​😞

FichDichInDemArsch
​No.... in good old Australia...

Alan W
​-> Commiefornia

Hello beautiful people!
​@FichDichInDemArsch until he says "I will end in a minute" that one actually means "another 30 minutes or so"

FichDichInDemArsch
​That is why I appear braindead now

FichDichInDemArsch
​@Hello beautiful people! 😂

Emily
​byeee

Hello beautiful people!
​byeee

FichDichInDemArsch
​Till next time, y'all! 😃😃

Alan W
​great show ty!

Xah Lee
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