-*- coding: utf-8 -*- Xah Lee ​hey guys paul durao ​Hello Alan W ​'ello Welcome to live chat! Remember to guard your privacy and abide by our community guidelines. Eduardo Alencar ​hi Kathy H ​good morning Kathy H ​I've lost track of time too Alan W ​@Xah Lee remember to show elisp code to run node js 😃 Eduardo Alencar ​did you started learning emacs/vim efficiency alongside learning programming or it was a later thing? Alan W ​i do use emacs Alan W ​I am an evil user Hello beautiful people! ​Hello beautiful people! 😃 Kathy H ​I seem to use/learn Emacs for everything apart from programming 😂 Alan W ​@Kathy H u do org mode? 😛 Hello beautiful people! ​org mode rules them all! Kathy H ​A LOT😁. (that's where I disagree with xah, I think org/auctex+cdlatex is the best thing to write)@Alan W Alan W ​ooh nice; you do math or science or some kinds of technical writing? Hello beautiful people! ​@Xah Lee I use emacs pretty much everyday. Kathy H ​yep, for pure text input, forget about typing. voice input is the best. For math stuff, emacs enables me to almost write as fast as the lecturer teaching. Emily ​Heyy Hello beautiful people! ​heyy! Kathy H ​heyyy! Hello beautiful people! ​@Xah Lee Thank you for promoting! Xah Lee ​livestream demo of keymouse on youtube, by “hello beautiful people” at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E11tO... scheduled for 2019-11-26 Tuesday, 11am San Francisco time. mutty meme ​Considering investing time and effort into EMACS/BASH, I can see the benefits (pulling back the veil of illusion that GUI's impose on the user) but I have doubts about the whole venture ! nice content Kathy H ​will definately be there 🏃@Hello beautiful people! Joric ​Oh an article about my Jorne keyboard. Thanks Xah. Sold another one just today. Hello beautiful people! ​@Kathy H it will be an honor to me. paul durao ​Do u ever look at Emacs source C code or lisp code ? Hello beautiful people! ​🍐 🍐 <- the mythical potatoes Emily ​Eshell is lovely Faust Pp ​Was machst du? Hello beautiful people! ​gar nichts. Faust Pp ​Ich bin nicht überrascht mutty meme ​Don't care about l33t status, would settle for competence so I have useful computation/information data analysis skills in the academic world where I have seen LISP and EMACS used commonly. Hello beautiful people! ​@Xah Lee could you talk little bit about "mouse vs trackball" ? Emily ​Trackball gang :) Hello beautiful people! ​🖲 Hello beautiful people! ​🖱 Alan W ​wub wub wub Alan W ​the night is young Alan W ​the party has just started Kathy H ​yep, most statisticians don't even use vim. I tried hard to pitch Emacs, ending up convicing ONE people to vim and that was it... Alan W ​R Studio has built in vim keybindings Alan W ​that are pretty good for a interactive/modern notebooky experience Alan W ​with vimmy feels :)! Emily ​Heyya alan Alan W ​@Kathy H do you or anyone you know use that? Alan W ​hello @Emily ! Alan W ​lol i was gone for a couple minutes; why is xah in vim? Kathy H ​yeah, Rstudio has both emacs and vim keybindings, sweet. Alan W ​what is going on Emily ​In vim.... In emacs Alan W ​:w <-- @Xah Lee here's your life raft Alan W ​:wq! Alan W ​lol he just killed the buffer 😞 cutting the gordian knot paul durao ​Ctrl [ is esc no ? Emily ​It is paul durao ​On sun I used mouse but not on pc Emily ​What's your favourite trackball? paul durao ​X11 can cut and paste with mouse Emily ​@Xah Lee ^ Hello beautiful people! ​@Xah Lee why are you using mouse if you prefer trackball? Alan W ​@Xah Lee what let to the intuition that track balls are more efficient? Eduardo Alencar ​why is it efficient? Kathy H ​I remember xah has a special setting for mouse. It auto click once detecting cursor moving out of a window @Xah Lee Hello beautiful people! ​@Xah Lee What is better for you on trackball compared to mouse? Hello beautiful people! ​@Xah Lee what are the properties you appreciate on track ball / how you would choose a new one ? Gantz akira ​i do it once a half year or longer.. Eduardo Alencar ​would be interesting seeing a csgo pro player using a trackball lol Xah Lee ​Trackball Reviewshttp://xahlee.info/kbd/trackball_inde... paul durao ​They have point follow mouse in Emacs, and an extend selection too Alan W ​im using the logitech ergo now Alan W ​it is prety good 😃 Eduardo Alencar ​what about trackpoint?( like on thinkpads) Hello beautiful people! ​@Xah Lee any thoughts on controlling trackball by thumb vs another fingers? Alan W ​gtg now everyone, but nice chill stream Alan W ​we even got to see some elisp codes 😃 Emily ​I can send a video of it tomorrow is you want to hear it Gantz akira ​true , i have the expert one , the sound is horrible but you get used to it . paul durao ​I like the Apple trackpad, but I don’t know if the trackball is better Kathy H ​Apple trackpad is interesting, that vibrating motor got me 😀 Eduardo Alencar ​do you still have the mac magazines? Emily ​Thank you for the talk show @Xah Lee :) Hello beautiful people! ​byeee Kathy H ​bye, thanks Xah Lee Say something... 0/200