-*- coding: utf-8 -*- Xah Lee ​hi bart and guys Xah Lee ​think i start 1 h later BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee I am currently writing a script for work... in JULIA. Xah Lee ​oh great Xah Lee ​i goto store Xah Lee ​srart in 40min. noon sf time nybo ​bart what do you think of telegram, is it bad too? BartholomewJS ​@nybo I don't call anything "bad", as everything is relative and most things have their use-cases. BartholomewJS ​@nybo I don't think Telegram is "bad" but I wouldn't use it, because it is similarly unsafe to WhatsApp, even though not as much. BartholomewJS ​@nybo It also FORCES you to use a phone number. Which is an absolute no-go for me. nybo ​ok nybo ​but nybo ​irc? :=) nybo ​lol, okok, i get it bart Xah Lee ​coming on in 10 Welcome to live chat! Remember to guard your privacy and abide by our community guidelines. nybo ​omg why are youtube stuck on these android 7 emojis Xah Lee ​nybo, where u from again? nybo ​@Xah Lee can you give a hardware tour today? nybo ​@Xah Lee nor:) Xah Lee ​what hardware tour? Xah Lee ​oh, norway! Xah Lee ​show photo of norway street! Xah Lee ​amazing, norway! nybo ​i think you need to show us the hackintosh setup nybo ​loool, better on photos then reality nybo ​[message retracted] nybo ​yy, might take one or two. but it gets too dark here nybo ​sun settled at 2:41 PM today ;d Xah Lee ​what's the topic today nybo ​hmm, social justice Jason ​Hey Xah, I’m new to your channel! BartholomewJS ​@nybo In IRC you can see other people's IPs as a "feature". I think this is incredibly stupid. Maybe in the 90's that was OK, but now this is inacceptable. BartholomewJS ​@Jason Welcome to the Xah cult. Jason ​I’m a programmer from NorthernIreland, I came across your website by accident and I’m glad I did :) Nabi Yang ​anime? BartholomewJS ​@Jason What are your languages? nybo ​topic: soical justice a necessary evil Nabi Yang ​what is this "naruto" BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee You are another proof of Americans being ignorant of anything that is not American. BartholomewJS ​@nybo Necessary? As in we need even more enemies? Jason ​The unicode page was actually how I found you haha BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee "I know everything." nybo ​@BartholomewJS ive been wondering about what is your picture. is it: 1. a person with hair OR 2. a cat OR 3. a flame? BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee @nybo Do you want me to spoil your riddle or do you rather investigate further to find out what it actually is? BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee Melodious scream, no rage. nybo ​[message retracted] Jason ​Only Northern Ireland is part of the UK nybo ​@BartholomewJS it must be a flame MAT5CH ​hey folks Jason ​The Republic of Ireland is not part of the UK BartholomewJS ​@MAT5CH Greetings. Jason ​Yeah :) MAT5CH ​[message retracted] acmonpong ​That is delicious stuff, I've had it in Chengdu, China Nabi Yang ​odeng Nabi Yang ​korean street vendor food Андрей Ракитин ​Damn that's scary MAT5CH ​looks like plaster actually MAT5CH ​/ mortar nybo ​ive only seen crab sticks in my supermarket Ayeur Hueya ​🍥 noobXqoou ​the anime is japanese i believe. it is quite popular Nabi Yang ​my coworkers talk about that anime sometimes. i've never seen it Nabi Yang ​it's the only naruto i've heard of 😛 they talk about some "naruto run" AMRI Amine ​hey xah, did you find a job ? why did you say that in interviews they think you can't create loops etc ? Jason ​You've been practicing that I think lol Nabi Yang ​social skills? is that something i can slot a chip for AMRI Amine ​Seems legit for me ... Most people can't see beneath the surface ... Campbell Barton ​I saw you didn't like any of the emacs undo/redo wrappers, I found they were all buggy too. Campbell Barton ​[message retracted] Campbell Barton ​Maybe too spesific for general talk though 😃 Nabi Yang ​i see them every time i use the restroom Nabi Yang ​that's different. actually, the live stream is blurry, but i think you're looking up japanese udon Nabi Yang ​i was born in USA. no lol, i lived in korea after i graduated college MAT5CH ​i was refering to that fish paste you showed earlier 😀 @Xah Lee Nabi Yang ​오땡 Nabi Yang ​오뎅 hrm, looks like you're on the right page. i see the picture AMRI Amine ​the undo / redo thing is like graph vs array ... Campbell Barton ​Yes, I've been using emacs undo for quite some time, it's OK but redo can be added into it - without loosing this advanced functionality. That's what I've done. Campbell Barton ​The annoyance with not having redo - is that it's useful to hold down a "redo" key to get the the latest state. Campbell Barton ​There are not that many packages? undo-tree, redo+, ... undo-history although that's fairly separate. Campbell Barton ​Yes, corrupting undo data is insanely bad & unacceptable. - I ran into this w/ redo+ and undo-tree. Campbell Barton ​Worse, sometimes you can't redo, if you saved you cant get to the recent state. Campbell Barton ​(if your testing an old state of the document for eg) Jason ​Vim does a good job with undo/redo in my opinion, just a simple U to undo then Ctrl + R for redo Campbell Barton ​The problem with them is they manipulate the internal undo data. Nabi Yang ​emacs has CUA keys. they could change the undo too Campbell Barton ​Australia :) Campbell Barton ​[message retracted] Nabi Yang ​i lived there for two years. i liked it Nabi Yang ​emacs even says Redo in the minibuffer! Campbell Barton ​You assume an undo package "MUST" corrupt data, I found a way to have undo/redo without messing with the internals. I linked to it above. Campbell Barton ​I spent some time writing redo and have been using it - it works nicely, didn't mean to start your rant, just saying it can work - without buggy package. Nabi Yang ​the rant starts whether you like it or not 😛 ^o^ Xah Lee ​https://discord.gg/QYFcqNT join discord Nabi Yang ​it shows he care passionately about the topic Campbell Barton ​It's not trivial, but it can be done ... 100 lines of code or so Campbell Barton ​gah, youtube hides my link Nabi Yang ​yep, i've tried putting links before too. youtube eats them up but doesn't say anything Xah Lee Say something... 0/200