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Xah Lee
​start in 5!

BartholomewJS
​Greetings.

ul sc
​salve

Papa Moon
​Salut

The Magpie
​Salutations lads

Benjamin Raskin
​Hello

BartholomewJS
​@Xah Lee Maybe I can answer a couple of German keyboard questions that rely on real life experience with them.

Freddy Freeman
​forth!
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Benjamin Raskin
​Not a relative of Jeff Raskin

Freddy Freeman
​telegram introduced a language called fift, based on forth, to be used on their blockchain VM

Freddy Freeman
​i.e. programming smart contracts

BartholomewJS
​@Freddy Freeman Just another nerdy project without any real use case or does it actually solve a real life problem that has not been solved sufficiently before?

Freddy Freeman
​well it does have some potential, as similar to facebooks libra, telegram already has a huge user base, so integrating new things little by little is easy -> dapps can be introduced to many new users

BartholomewJS
​@Freddy Freeman Libra is a scam and does not solve any problems, just creates more. Same with Microsoft's Rust knock-off.

MATI NAVAS
​hey all

Freddy Freeman
​it is technically also better than ethererum afaik, now integrate smart contracts with the pretty good bot programming that telegram has and an integrated wallet in their messenger, its quite sum pote

Freddy Freeman
​ntial

BartholomewJS
​@Freddy Freeman Nowadays in our brainwashed societies Suckerberg could crap on the floor and sell this for a billion dollars on eBay within a day, I assure you that.

BartholomewJS
​@Freddy There are at least a hundred coins that are better than ethereum.

BartholomewJS
​@Mati Greetings.

MATI NAVAS
​i saw xahtalk isnt a thing anymore

Freddy Freeman
​nah, i dont think hes that popular xD sure, lots and lots of blockchains are btter than all the popular ones

Freddy Freeman
​technically

The Magpie
​hey @MATI NAVAS

Freddy Freeman
​EOS would also be a better alternative to ethereum

BartholomewJS
​@Freddy User base is a point but that's what makes Libra a scam in the first place. It exploits its huge user base for planning total control over people's money,.

BartholomewJS
​@Freddy Now imagine you get banned on Facebook for saying that not every human is a nice cute person. Do you think they will let you access your Libra account after being banned from Facebook?

A A
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A A
​@Xah Lee Hey, a question I always had about you , how do you spend your day ?

Freddy Freeman
​well its not really the existing user base, it is the blatant control over the money flow and the already existing user information, libra is something quite special for sure, quite dystopian,

A A
​@Xah Lee I use vc-dir for version control facilities, it seems you are using something else , Magit ?

jedwar pacheco
​Hello @xah !!!

Freddy Freeman
​im rooting for telegrams TON network though 😃 it is not about a payment system as libra, but more dapps like ethereum also telegram at least pretends to care about privacy haha

Freddy Freeman
​merry christmas xD

A A
​Merry christmas from Tunisia 😛

The Magpie
​as one who's still trying to figure out whether i want to focus on learning vim or emacs, what's one thing emacs can do that vim can't do? @Xah Lee

The Magpie
​also should I start learning emacs with or without xah fly keys? I hear that out of the box keybindings give RSI after sometime, just like Stalman got it @Xah Lee

A A
​@The Magpie learn vim and emacs 😛 you have the both, use them both when necessary , if you won't use them , then you don't need them ...

Alan W
​herro

Alan W
​lol I open video and I hear "....is CRAP!"

Freddy Freeman
​if you already know vim emacs is not worth it imo

A A
​@Xah Lee Isn't git pure graphs ?

Freddy Freeman
​lol @Alan W

The Magpie
​well I use whatever code editor has the best autocompletion tbh, right now I'm using intellij and vscode. But I find myself migrating a lot so I want something i can invest safely into @A A

BartholomewJS
​@Alan Greetings.

The Magpie
​sup @Alan W

Alan W
​"because UNIX" <- xah's most convincing argument

Alan W
​👋 @Freddy Freeman @The Magpie @BartholomewJS

The Magpie
​rip we got grouped up into a single comment

The Magpie
​🙃

BartholomewJS
​@Alan "I had diarrhea... COZ OF UNIX!!"

A A
​@The Magpie I think vim is about using fast commands . Emacs is about having a lot of utilities ...

La Casaca
​Unix facks!

BartholomewJS
​@La Casaca Always caps lock that phrase... UNIX FACKS

A A
​The problem with @Xah Lee 's philosophy is that once you expose a lot of interfaces and create abstractions you risk of making the whole thing slow and hard to isolate errors or recover ..

Nabi Yang
​lol gif giff

A A
​Everyone knows that macOS or windows can barely run on computers of poor people who can't afford them ... So needing a minimal system is essential in that case ..

A A
​Although i agree many of things in the shell ecosystem of unix like systems are not simplified and terse ..

Freddy Freeman
​"wrong 😃"

Freddy Freeman
​😂

Dan Morris
​Hello;

Freddy Freeman
​hi

Alan W
​@BartholomewJS did u poop parentheses

Oleg Marakhovsky
​this is bold statemenets

Alan W
​"skin in the game, duel me" - Xah Talebite

BartholomewJS
​Now

BartholomewJS
​Now we need anyone betting against Xah, so Xah can be proven right and the one opposing can be declared the loser.

A A
​@Xah Lee the arrow key 😑

BartholomewJS
​I have to move to Mars then.

A A
​@Xah Lee the arrow keys and the mouse wheel are not omptimised by any measure

Alan W
​Did xah have to turn off JS yet this stream?

Alan W
​"emacs does everything. that is the general gist of emacs..."

BartholomewJS
​@Xah Lee So Emacs is unnecessarily bloated?

Alan W
​shhh @BartholomewJS , xah is not the prophet of anti bloat

Liokardo
​yes, the EWM i believe

BartholomewJS
​@Xah Lee I was asking.

Alan W
​@Xah Lee r YOU a crackpot of our current era?

Alan W
​"I'm not a crack pot, I'm a good crack pot. I'm not a crack pot at all. But it is up to you decide of course"

Alan W
​such discursive Asian philosophy answer ☯

Liokardo
​it's up to you

ul sc
​@Xah Lee what keyboard layout you are using?

ul sc
​yea you're correct

ul sc
​ß - "scharfes s" 😉

ul sc
​where "scharf" would be "sharp"

Liokardo
​have a good day

Jens Lange
​worst things on german keyboard: Accent keys, which make them unusable for key cords in emacs, Alt-GR kills right alt, the parenthesis difficult to type, because they require shift or alt-GR

Liokardo
​@Jens Lange Well, european keyboard.

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