2020-05-08

Emily
​hello 🙋

Justin Scarfy
​hi

Justin Scarfy
​hi

Justin Scarfy
​千手觀音-在洗手

R34P3R GR1M
​Hello

Emily
​hey hi

R34P3R GR1M
​hi hey

Xah Lee
​yo guys

Emily
​yo xah

Alan W
​千手观音在virtue signalling

Alan W
​给大家看谁是最responsible social distancing的

Emily
​good morning

Nimetion Shikosico
​Hello, world!

Alan W
​👋

jagen
​what's up

Alan W
​XahTV is like Pokemon for keyboards

Nimetion Shikosico
​7 official Morita's from NEC

Nimetion Shikosico
​TRON dominated embedded OS

Emily
​uTron - what a lovely keyboard

Emily
​i hope to someday get one

Emily
​a split-keyboard topre

Alan W
​UwU

Alan W
​手裏剣 *shuriken*

Alan W
​"throwing star"

Nimetion Shikosico
​shuriken = throwing blade

Alan W
​*desu*

jagen
​are the curvy ones better

jagen
​the microtron looks very... traditional?

Alan W
​Xah Keyboard Warrior

Emily
​alan squat warrior

Guilherme de Almeida Suckevicz
​Hello!

Nimetion Shikosico
​μTRON adopted themselves more similar to common kbd

Nimetion Shikosico
​bottom of TRON TK-1 maybe hand-writing pad, you can write in Kanji if dunno how to type

Nimetion Shikosico
​Japanese 1+2 layers, English only upper/lowercase

jagen
​sometimes it's even as bad as "curly braces"

Alan W
​😡

R34P3R GR1M
​hm, in us i say curly braces and square brackets have i been doing it wrong the whole time? am I really . . . english?

Alan W
​@R34P3R GR1M no

Alan W
​don't let ESL man tell u how to speak English 😛

jagen
​( = paren, [ = bracket, { = brace, < = brocket

R34P3R GR1M
​brocket

R34P3R GR1M
​the brace preferred by bros

Emily
​jagen - that's the same naming scheme i use 🙂

Nimetion Shikosico
​μTRON was launched by Personal-Media, same maker of TRON TK-1

Alan W
​< = "angular bracket"

Alan W
​or i just make

Alan W
​hand gestures lol

tldrkek
​greater than, less than

Alan W
​yeah that's common too @tldrkek

jagen
​angular.js

Alan W
​everyone has to take a shot

Alan W
​everytime Xah sayss "NimShiko" name variation

Alan W
​🍻

jagen
​@tldrkek lol

jagen
​first we bring back TRON then we bring back Symbolics

Nimetion Shikosico
​μTRON was launched to promote their alternative input method, but nobody love their input method

Alan W
​@Xah Lee inverted T best -> QWERTY Theory

Alan W
​🙂

Nimetion Shikosico
​NEC was under pressure from IBM-PC compatible in 1992, maybe that's y NEC didn't take risk of different from common kbd?

tldrkek
​what is qwerty theory?

jagen
​don't ask

Alan W
​@Xah Lee if you like the inverted T so much, you can use the arrow keys in vim 😡

R34P3R GR1M
​qwerty theory is the theory that defaults are the most optimal in large interconnected systems

R34P3R GR1M
​it's a branch of whole systems thinking

tldrkek
​what is default

jagen
​qwerty 😛

R34P3R GR1M
​whatever mom served you on the first plate

Alan W
​oooooooooooooooooo

Alan W
​🔥

tldrkek
​for everything?

Nimetion Shikosico
​Ergofit(M) was unique NEC Morita's supporting Windows-keys

jagen
​dog food optimal

Alan W
​no ones knows if ur a dog

Alan W
​on the internet

Emily
​alan - are you a dog?

Alan W
​no

R34P3R GR1M
​Alan is the default dog if you don't bring your own

Alan W
​false

Alan W
​僕は人間です i am person

jagen
​the qwerty of human beings

Alan W
​yes

Alan W
​Chinese people

Alan W
​the QWERTY of human beings

Alan W
​black hair, brown eyes

Alan W
​type O blood

Alan W
​i am QWERTY human

jagen
​before you take that as an insult I have no idea what that means

MathCubes
​It's you again!

Alan W
​typing normal Romaji Japanese, you have less modifiers

MathCubes
​Love your keyboard works. Your website is so good!

Alan W
​less holding down buttons -> less RSI

MathCubes
​How much time did it took you to create your website?

tldrkek
​decades

Alan W
​@Xah Lee show Russian standard keyboard keymap

MathCubes
​I use the workman layout. I love it.

Alan W
​very nice default mapping

Alan W
​LOLOL GOOGLE BANS CHINESE PEOPLE

MathCubes
​@Xah Lee ^^^^

Alan W
​🤔

Nimetion Shikosico
​Fujitsu NICOLA was loved by professional typists, simply top-down bias 🙂

R34P3R GR1M
​Hi @Xah Lee

MathCubes
​As someone that is train as a Firefighter. You can't post car accidents cause it's disrespect and an invasion of privacy for the persons involved. They may not want it to be shown. @Xah Lee

jagen
​well, they're frickin multinationals

jagen
​hardly american anymore

tldrkek
​racemixing.... lole...

Alan W
​QWERTY theory rising

MathCubes
​If you show it and it's get very publicized and probably would negatively affect their life.

MathCubes
​Their health insurance may not cover it and demand a back payment cause health insurance don't cover things that was caused by another person.

Alan W
​Chinese characters are engineering artifacts, inescapable bloat

MathCubes
​So if their health insurance finds out. It may really screwed them over.

Justin Scarfy
​您好

Alan W
​I downvote Xah lol; let's explore what the algorithm thinks

Alan W
​maybe it is like REDDIT where this generates controversy points

Alan W
​because I oppose Xah Japanese keyboard efficiency analysis

Justin Scarfy
​我在家休息，沒有出門，在家寫小說，畫連環畫

MathCubes
​Wow windows 98

jagen
​hoho I wanna buy it

tldrkek
​AWOOGA

MathCubes
​How come there aren't any egro keyboard with Topera switches?

Alan W
​[message retracted]

Alan W
​한국 넘버 1

Alan W
​corea #1

R34P3R GR1M
​hmm, del key replacing left win key seems like a great idea....

Alan W
​lool, ASCII compatible; seamlessly works to input US and stuff without extra key bloat

R34P3R GR1M
​then u can use arrow keys with right hand and del with left.

Alan W
​Russian keyboard layouts also seamlessly integrate with US ASCII hardware

Alan W
​unlike Japanese keyboard stuff

Alan W
​un-Uwu

Alan W
​uwu-bad

Alan W
​ASCII-good

jagen
​highly suspicious

Alan W
​centralized planning keyboard

Alan W
​да

jagen
​@Xah Lee do you have a first time buyer's guide

MathCubes
​@Xah Lee What are your thoughts on an egro keyboard tray?

jagen
​I have used laptop keyboard my whole life. i got a sun 6 from mit flea :shrug:

tldrkek
​"just like communism" lol

MathCubes
​I will join discord

Alan W
​@Xah Lee centralized layout on Russian keyboard means less pinky/ring finger use, more pointer and middle finger ----> more ergo

Alan W
​one handed, more common characters near each other means you can peck one handed more efficiently too

tldrkek
​what's wrong with using pinky and ring?

Alan W
​@tldrkek these fingers are weaker than your other fingers; many guitarists for instance don't use these fingers at all with their right hand

Alan W
​when finger picking

Alan W
​you are likely to get RSI from overworking these fingers

Alan W
​that's why Xah advocates using thumbs to hit modifiers rather than pinkies

Alan W
​among other reasons

tldrkek
​oh, i did not know

tldrkek
​i used to play piano so it's not that uncomfortable for me

Nimetion Shikosico
​fastest input in theory: stenotype 🙂

Alan W
​@Xah Lee for Japanese keyboards, if you use Romaji input you don't have to press as many modifiers; this is preferable

Alan W
​now @Xah Lee is doing Guru sitting posture 😀

Alan W
​with accompanying hand gestures

MathCubes
​@Xah Lee Many Americans do actually post it online. They don't care about other people.

tldrkek
​i think xah's point was that it is disallowed on mainstream sns

Alan W
​"ambulance chaser" <- used for lawyers that chase money associated with crisis/death

Alan W
​☯

Emily
​tao

Farzin F
​Hey Xah, do you use foot-pedals with your keyboard?

Alan W
​[message retracted]

Alan W
​typing a modifier counts

Alan W
​as a keystroke

Alan W
​😉

tldrkek
​modifier isn't typed per key so still less keystrokes on kana

Alan W
​yes but with using romaji sometimes you have less keys; e.g. type g you don't need to enter the ten ten thing

tldrkek
​true

jagen
​thanks xah!

Alan W
​ty @Xah Lee

Alan W
​fun show 🙂

Xah