2020-10-03 matt ​Yo! BartholomewJS ​Greetings. BartholomewJS ​Is that the Dumang I was talking about, in the thumbnail? matt ​It sure looks like it Welcome to live chat! Remember to guard your privacy and abide by our community guidelines. LEARN MORE Alan W ​Guten Tag Matt ​hi Xah Lee ​hi all Xah Lee ​hi @Matt @Alan W , and damn bart not here 康小广 ​Happy weekend! matt ​good morning The Informaticist ​Hi! Alan W ​🍻 Alan W ​hate of the feet Danielle__ __ ​o/ Alan W ​🔥🦶 BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee What do you mean, not here? BartholomewJS ​I already posted a question in this chat. BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee So it is the same pronounciation as in German. Alan W ​毒蟒 F OE ​woaah? F OE ​i will not touch this keyboard F OE ​scary and poisonous matt ​😂 "know nothing teenage gamers" Xah Lee ​@Alan W Xah Lee ​@BartholomewJS F OE ​Polyglot F OE ​impressive Alan Alan W ​*tips fedora* Alan W ​just a lost Anglophone without culture BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee I was AFK for 4 minutes, that's why, maybe. Well, I'm back so all is fine. BartholomewJS ​Google tracking my AFK'ness... Thanks Google. This message is held for review. Alan W ​@BartholomewJS get back to your keyboard, wage slave SHOW HIDE BartholomewJS ​People talking about font: Normal Discussion BartholomewJS ​Xah Lee talking about font: *unleashes wrath of the Xah* The Informaticist ​I prefer Unicomp, and I use regular Emacs key-bindings without a problem, but I began studying violin and piano at age 5, so that may have helped. 康小广 ​​Xah Lee talking about everything^ The Informaticist ​The SECRET is to keep your hands floating and movable...don't put down the heels of your hands. Alan W ​Aesthetics is important Alan W ​Iosevka has a very important practical aspect; it is NARROW so it is good for small terminal widths n stuff runneypo ​is there any agreed way to do good UX though? easlweasl ​aesthetic 🤬 This message is held for review. F OE ​Font suckling little nerds salivate over their appearance like small child love her doll 卑鄙 SHOW HIDE Alan W ​Asceticism and aesthetics 😀 Alan W ​important things easlweasl ​Xah should read Kant The Informaticist ​I use Deja Vu Sans Mono 🙂 BartholomewJS ​Xah Lee, the Stoicist of the 21st century. The Informaticist ​It's the blub paradox. BartholomewJS ​Xah Lee is pure peace and relaxation. Alan W ​@The Informaticist Deja Vu Sans Mono is a perfectly adequate programing/general use font easlweasl ​Xah Lee is pure reason This message is held for review. Alan W ​🍷 hi idiots SHOW HIDE Alan W ​lol Xah doesn't like emojis? clawfoot ​:yougotthis: Alan W ​Yet his Unicode emoji page is his most popular, no? @Xah Lee BartholomewJS ​Now his stream will be de-monetized because of that symbol in that unicode list... The Informaticist ​@Alan W I know. That's why I use it. Why change what works? The Informaticist ​You'll notice in my thumbsail Alan W ​Deja Vu, Google Noto, Roboto and android stuff; there are a handful of popular Sans Serif fonts that should be adequate for 99% of use cases Alan W ​unless you have some special problem that requires this or that glyph Alan W ​these fonts should do the job Alan W ​for just reading text on your PC BartholomewJS ​Spaces are better. 😄 matt ​yes, you make sense. F OE ​Yes you are making sense BartholomewJS ​Yes, you are only making cents. F OE ​they are teet suckling infantile culture Alan W ​lol @BartholomewJS Alan W ​@Xah Lee you are making sense... but with some assumptions. For example, should math symbols and stuff be displayed with unicode to begin with? The Informaticist ​@Xah Lee Is Number Theory helpul in developing general mathematical skills, such as understanding proofs? Alan W ​Maybe Math should have its own system for representation This message is held for review. matt ​its a generational thing -- they all (not really wall) think that they have made first discovery over shit like fonts, languages, formatting, etc. SHOW HIDE Alan W ​@Xah Lee I understand your reasoning, but think you are wrong on many presuppositions about how stuff should be done; e.g. *just use unicode* BartholomewJS ​@Alan W You know something is complicated when it is a system for representation that needs its own system for representation. runneypo ​hacker cult vs free thinking xah Alan W ​your reasoning makes sense for optimizing for unicode and hypertext to explain everything Alan W ​@BartholomewJS lol of course theoretical math is not for everyone; so no problem there easlweasl ​oh it's coming, ligature rant The Informaticist ​Yes, Xah, you make sense, overall. runneypo ​when ff is connected Alan W ​covfefe <- avoiding ligatures lol easlweasl ​œ Alan W ​æ BartholomewJS ​filiuid fiiii easlweasl ​a french one that has bothered me in my youth The Informaticist ​I think Knuth is out of touch with reality. GrieferMan69 ​hello Alan W ​French accents r pretty to look at, but a pain in the butt to type F OE ​@Alan W Donald who? Alan W ​Knuth Alan W ​Trump Alan W ​Ktumpth F OE ​thanks The Informaticist ​I have a friend like him. He is smart, but not creative, so he tries to compensate for his lack of creativity by being very precise and excellent. F OE ​Oh wow Donald Trump was the supreme pioneer on tech typography Alan W ​kerning The Informaticist ​him = Knuth BartholomewJS ​@The Informaticist Sounds like a typical mathematician. Alan W ​lol Xah the front end web guy, bashing on typography? F OE ​increasingly interesting, niubi Alan W ​🤔 GrieferMan69 ​that tabs tho Alan W ​牛逼 niubi = cow !@#$ Alan W ​= cool Alan W ​for non-Sinos matt ​The Cult of Font The Informaticist ​@The Informaticist My friend is a CS professor. No creativity. Alan W ​understanding > creativity Alan W ​"nothing new under the sun" 康小广 ​keming BartholomewJS ​Xah Lee > everything else This message is held for review. F OE ​what the fuck SHOW HIDE The Informaticist ​No, creativity is greater. You can't be really creative without first understanding. F OE ​font teet sucklers please exit the realm BartholomewJS ​@The Informaticist Reminds me of Kant. runneypo ​kerning and ligatures are to make reading easier because the brain recognises word shapes rather than individual letters matt ​I'm using that: Social Justice Idiots (SJI)s .. F OE ​fix your brain The Informaticist ​@BartholemewJS 🙂 I can't even carry Kant's water. Alan W ​@runneypo yeah I think you're right BartholomewJS ​@runneypo Reminds me of JSON vs YAML. Alan W ​"don't throw out the baby with the bathwater" Alan W ​there is a lot of stoopid stuff that people concerned with typography say Alan W ​but other more fundamental things they talk about Alan W ​are not stupid Alan W ​and have to do with functionality Alan W ​e.g. look at how lots of older, long books are typeset into columns. This is a practical concern flood kommand ​OXAFORD UTe Alan W ​optimal widths for reading, space concerns BartholomewJS ​Ox-uh-ford~ easlweasl ​xah esoteric twitter memes > your meme This message is held for review. F OE ​xah made meme in fucking 1970 you stupid millennials! SHOW HIDE flood kommand ​Ox Ford Falcon Ute Made In Australia - Built Ford Tough - Built for Buff This message is held for review. The Informaticist ​APA Style guide at my university...it's micromanage bullshit. SHOW HIDE Alan W ​whoa xah; i reject your anti God history narrative Alan W ​enlightenmentard flood kommand ​Xah Lee may i ask how long u are my lord? flood kommand ​old* BartholomewJS ​@The Informaticist You called Deja Vu and it actually arrived. F OE ​@Xah Lee Xah will you change your opinion on the most practical font in the future when we will undoubtedly be forced to use an advanced programming language consisting of exclusively emojis? BartholomewJS ​@F OE In case you missed it: there is a set of keyboards where each key corresponds to one of all emojis that were available at the time of making. F OE ​@BartholomewJS Incredibly useful, please tell me the name of such keyboard Alan W ​@Xah Lee Google's Noto fonts have lots and lots and lots of characters; maybe all of Unicode Remo ​Shouldn't it be 'We invited the strippers JFK and Stalin.' instead of the second one? BartholomewJS ​@F OE "The Art of the Bodge: How I Made The Emoji Keyboard" on YouTube. 康小广 ​Xah's own browser changed the font lol Remo ​Lucida Console for me. F OE ​@BartholomewJS thank you bart 康小广 ​why doesn't Xah's own blog use a font that distinguish I and l? Alan W ​borg xah doesn't understand why you might have different weights and font faces Remo ​Why would a font name use a lowercase first letter and rest uppercase anyway? BartholomewJS ​When you find out, that even your name is idiotic, you found Xah Lee enlightenment. Gaming 3 ​relax Gaming 3 ​drink some water This message is held for review. F OE ​fuck you xah stop show me LOSERvka please SHOW HIDE Alan W ​@Gaming 3 he has energy drinks lol Alan W ​in a video game, all the fonts typically are one fontface Alan W ​xah is angsty gamer 康小广 ​@Remo iFont? F OE ​font teet sucklers please exit my forum Remo ​iFONT BartholomewJS ​Xah Lee's son: Look, I have drawn a picture! Remo ​iFont is just camel case 康小广 ​yeah BartholomewJS ​Xah Lee: What is that? A word? In THAT font??? Why don't you study mathematics???? matt ​looks all the same to me 康小广 ​Xah starts calling it Losevka F OE ​imagine being Xah son F OE ​i would be so smart Remo ​Xah Lee, what comedians or comedy movies/shows do you enjoy? Alan W ​@Xah Lee you must address the narrow, practical aspect of Ioveska or your analysis is incomplete Remo ​If any... BartholomewJS ​Amazing how Iosenka changed to Losevenka in a couple of minutes. This is the magic of Xah Lee. F OE ​@Alan W Estimated time of Xah reading your comment? Perhaps 10minute BartholomewJS ​@F OE That is still optimistic. F OE ​@BartholomewJS hahaha keen observation Alan W ​lol chill chat 😀 F OE ​Do not misunderstand my comments F OE ​I am a full supporter of Xah and his opinions F OE ​you cannot receive an experience like Xah from another person, that is surely true enough BartholomewJS ​@F OE Welcome to the Xah Cult. F OE ​Thank you Bart I accept it wholly F OE ​I will proceed to snap my full size keyboard in half creating my first split keyboard matt ​yes, okay, I see the difference now. its actually a big difference. Remo ​Some games used double hyphen to simulat emdash matt ​Thanks for another great one Xah Alan W ​Windows users; you can use Win + semicolon, select em/en dash Alan W ​mac is alt + m/n Alan W ​linux there r too many ways to do it; Pandemic ​Hi, Xah grettings from Perú Remo ​Why not write for a publisher like Apress or Packt? F OE ​Xah's opinions should be more mainstream and reach wide audiences in the attempts to correct the infantile teet sucklers influence spreading throughout the world like a plague BartholomewJS ​@Remo Packt is too uneducated for Xah standards. Remo ​True Remo ​They're crap Remo ​Apress is good though Alan W ​america is largely an ad driven society Alan W ​esp on the west coast Alan W ​best bullsh17'rs prosper F OE ​Xah you can fulfill the archetypal savior; one man fighting the system which oppresses him and the masses. Xah starring as Neo in Matrix 4 matt ​The truth is never mainstream. Alan W ​Say no to Gnosticism BartholomewJS ​@matt Correct. Alan W ​the heresies have been named hundreds of years ago pinhead ​The earth is flat. easlweasl ​thank you, this live was very instructive Xah