2021-03-27 Xah Lee ​ok. emacs/elisp. not sure what topic exactly. if you have questions or something u wanna see, post it. here or on youtube chat. Xah Lee ​hi hi hi Xah Lee ​say things Xah Lee ​gonna be emacs today. Xah Lee ​and elisp Xah Lee ​but don't have focused topic now Xah Lee ​if u have question, or wanna see me do something, say it F F ​can you write in chat what you're saying please i don't have a headphones atm Ernests Kuzņecovs ​what happens if you undo your undoing of undo Mark Olenik ​hi Xah! breaktheloop ​Hi Xah, I have a question about the purpose of Mathematica as a programming language. Is Mathematica's applicability closer to Excel + VBA in that it is a visualization and numbers crunching tool? breaktheloop ​is Mathematica closer to Excel + VBA than a general purpose language like Python? why or why not? dmt ​are you wearing 2 different glasses? 😲 dmt ​doesn't undo-tree solve this problem you're talking about since it retains a history of changes? viniciusxp ​FSF loves undo. viniciusxp ​Someone did C-g C-/ ans Stallman was undone dmt ​lol Gribojedow ​@Xah Lee VBA = Visual Basic for Applications Gribojedow ​If there was a way to troll @Xah Lee, it would be to compare Mathematica to Visual Basic. Ernests Kuzņecovs ​Hmm, I see, you're perspective of what a language should be is to be able analyse things. Thant makes sense when taken term "language" literally dmt ​doom emacs has a lot of buzz around it viniciusxp ​Did you check this remacs project? Ernests Kuzņecovs ​I think i tried some doom things but the latency of commands became so high dmt ​spacemacs has also been around a while longer. I think it won't be long until doom emacs surpasses it in popularity This message is held for review. viniciusxp ​ I felt more comfortable on Doom than on Spacemacs. In the end I decided to make a very simple default init.el that works for me, without all the bells and whistles. Ernests Kuzņecovs ​What are the advantages of Guile Lisp? Ernests Kuzņecovs ​Over Emacs Lisp? James Bourbaki ​Spacemacs / doom is a good start but you can make a system that is great for you Dan v ​I've been tempted to jump into the Doom emacs bandwagon many times, but I'm too invested in my own config. And the whole modal editing thing..still not my cup of tea. dmt ​I really like modal editing. I really want modal editing for emacs keybinds rather than C-everything viniciusxp ​I like the idea of vi move keys. I mapped my mechanical keyboard to use those on a layer, and am happy now. Ernests Kuzņecovs ​Elisp feels powerful to me though, especially macros Ernests Kuzņecovs ​But I haven't tried any other lisp dmt ​Climacs lmao. I need to try that. James Bourbaki ​[message retracted] Peter Kotrčka ​stumpwm Ernests Kuzņecovs ​I heard Mr Stallman doesn't like Common lisp Dan v ​Mr Stallman doesn't like anything. I can't imagine spending an afternoon with the guy. He's quite insufferable. viniciusxp ​Lisp is useful really on some niche areas. That’s why never got consolidated in one dialect. Actually it may be even better this way. viniciusxp ​The guy is a slave of his own character... Richard ​What do you think about the open letter for the removal of Stallman from the FSF? Peter Kotrčka ​But all other languages are going forward to meet with lisp 🙂 viniciusxp ​I am 5 years young of Xah Dan v ​The whole cancellation culture is out of whack, but to be honest, I haven't followed that case close enough to have an informed opinion. I've read that he's a bit of a creep though. dmt ​"and linux is different" lmao dmt ​that about sums it up dmt ​isn't the distro wars mainly just tounge-in-cheek though? dmt ​from what I've seen canonical employees aren't having knife fights on the streets against redhat types Ernests Kuzņecovs ​I think free software is like music. dmt ​that's a good way to put it Ernests Kuzņecovs ​The way they copy, interact, evolve viniciusxp ​redahat killed Centos, it is a shame... Ubuntu is nice, but getting boring. viniciusxp ​Scheme is a dinosaur. viniciusxp ​No prejudice about dinosaurs, by the way. dmt ​J U S T I C E Peter Kotrčka ​Clojure is the new Common Lisp.. kind of an industry standard if you need lisp-like language Ernests Kuzņecovs ​It seems like each lisp feature the different lisps offer can be implemented in any lisp so that's why i presonally dont understand the difference Ernests Kuzņecovs ​Except for things like namespaces i guess Peter Kotrčka ​I think we all need vim written in emacs lisp 😀 dmt ​we need emacs written in vimscript! Boone D ​pretty sure that's evil mode Paul Eduard ​VBA vs. Elisp 😁 viniciusxp ​This is funny. LOL dmt ​emacs meme generator dmt ​I need this viniciusxp ​I’ve tried this meme generator once! :) Peter Kotrčka ​But the question is.. do these people also eat the skin from their feet? No.. See? That's why we should praise Stallman 🙂 dmt ​cooks & produces his own food Peter Kotrčka ​I think he prefers it raw dmt ​@Xah Lee I'm very much of the new generation of emacs users, I'd be very interested in a livestream where you go over the history of contributors sort of like this Peter Kotrčka ​@dmt same here Peter Kotrčka ​Agree... I am pretty sure that the inventor of a wheel did not eat the skin out of his feet too.. dmt ​pepesad tfw reads my point but doesn't say "yeah let's do that" lol Paul Eduard ​Good show! Peter Kotrčka ​Bye Ernests Kuzņecovs ​Nice show dmt ​Bye bye Xah Lee Say something... 0/200