2021-04-18

4:34 PM
BartholomewJS
​This scream is too late.
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6:01 PM
Xah Lee
​hello all

6:04 PM
ZitronCrazy
​Hellouuu Xah Lee.

6:04 PM
BartholomewJS
​YU SO L8 😭

6:04 PM
BartholomewJS
​Wow, screamer microphone.

6:06 PM
ZitronCrazy
​No, I want to see your pretty face. ;_;

6:07 PM
BartholomewJS
​har har har

6:11 PM
Alpha Beta
​Do you suggest I use DOOM emacs coming from vim?

6:15 PM
Alpha Beta
​ BTW I didn't see anything extraordinary about wolfram. I saw some of your vids. It seems like a good graphical calculator. Not really the best progarmming language in the world as you say.

6:15 PM
Alpha Beta
​A very good graphing calculator though

6:16 PM
BartholomewJS
​@Alpha Beta You just unleashed the Kraken...

6:16 PM
Alpha Beta
​maybe I'm not getting the finer details

6:17 PM
Alpha Beta
​@BartholomewJS Why though?

6:18 PM
BartholomewJS
​@Alpha Beta Obviously, Mathematica is not the most general purpose language out there, but its easy to understand syntax and other architectural differences make it a pretty noteworthy prog. language.

6:18 PM
BartholomewJS
​@Alpha Beta Because Xah is a big fan of Mathematica. 😃

6:19 PM
Alpha Beta
​Yea I know, but I don't get why "It's the best programming language in the world"

6:19 PM
Alpha Beta
​In the vids he shows some graphing functions at most

6:20 PM
BartholomewJS
​@Alpha Beta Because it avoids so many mistakes that Xah always attacks when talking about other languages.

6:20 PM
Alpha Beta
​There are plenty of graphing calculators out there these days

6:21 PM
BartholomewJS
​@Alpha Beta I don't use Mathematica myself, so I cannot give you a satisfying answer. But from what I have heard and seen in Xah's screams is that it's the best language for its purpose.

6:21 PM
Alpha Beta
​Perhaps its defining feature is he symbolic interpretation?

6:21 PM
BartholomewJS
​@Alpha Beta I think, it's pretty obvious it's more than a "graphing calculator". It's not just about putting in an equation and getting a result, which a calculator is for.

6:22 PM
Alpha Beta
​I mean that is a great feat in itself. But there are other programming languages like that these days

6:22 PM
BartholomewJS
​@Alpha Beta What languages are like "that"? Could you give some examples?

6:22 PM
Alpha Beta
​Then?

6:22 PM
Alpha Beta
​matlab

6:23 PM
BartholomewJS
​@Alpha Beta I just know Matlab by its name, but I don't know about how it works. Perhaps Xah knows.

6:24 PM
Alpha Beta
​in a way its macros

6:25 PM
Alpha Beta
​also natural language processing could be implemented in other languages as well

6:25 PM
Alpha Beta
​Not to mention Lisp

6:25 PM
Alpha Beta
​Is wolfram really better than Lisp?

6:26 PM
BartholomewJS
​@Alpha Beta From this point of view, anything could be implemented in anything. That's not the point, though. 😀

6:26 PM
Alpha Beta
​I know

6:26 PM
BartholomewJS
​@Alpha Beta Depends on what you mean by "better" and even more so in the case of Lisp, where there are so many derivatives.

6:26 PM
BartholomewJS
​While Mathematica seems to be quite a huge monolith.

6:26 PM
Alpha Beta
​But "The best programming language in the world" is a heavy title

6:27 PM
BartholomewJS
​@Alpha Beta Xah is known for provocative expressions. You always need to know the context to judge them properly. 😁

6:28 PM
Alpha Beta
​I could see mathematica being used for 3d mechanics in the future. Like holographic programming etc. But a derivative of lisp built for that specific purpose would do better I guess

6:29 PM
Alpha Beta
​I know, I recently started fo

6:29 PM
Alpha Beta
​following him*

6:30 PM
BartholomewJS
​@Alpha Beta That might be the case, however in such cases you would need to learn derivatives for each purpose. While Mathematica, the huge monolith it is, is learnt once, as far as I understood.

6:30 PM
Alpha Beta
​Seems very knowledgeable

6:31 PM
BartholomewJS
​@Alpha Beta It also does not have a concept of "libraries" as far as I understood. Everything just works, without you importing stuff explicitly.

6:32 PM
Alpha Beta
​hmm, right

6:33 PM
Alpha Beta
​So its not an opinionated language

6:34 PM
Alpha Beta
​But has everything set up

6:34 PM
Alpha Beta
​Okay, that is something

6:35 PM
Alpha Beta
​stateless system

6:35 PM
Alpha Beta
​It's capable of logic though right?

6:37 PM
Alpha Beta
​ I need to do some more research...

6:38 PM
KhwPp
​does bill gates use emacs

6:39 PM
Alpha Beta
​No, he uses MS Word

6:41 PM
BartholomewJS
​I am convinced Bill Gates is using Linux behind locked doors.

6:58 PM
Amine Zyad
​Hey Xah, long time no see

7:01 PM
Mr 22B
​What’s the font ?

7:16 PM
ZitronCrazy
​Yay, your face! ^^

7:19 PM
BartholomewJS
​@Xah Lee Great scream, thank you. I'll go now. See you next time.

7:24 PM
ZitronCrazy
​Bye Xah Lee, I'll go also sleeping, today I have digital schooling with annoying teachers which microphone is too loud and the students are noisy... good night. ^^