2021-10-12 Welcome to live chat! Remember to guard your privacy and abide by our community guidelines. Xah Lee ​start in a bit Xah Lee ​hi guys noobXqoou ​whadup zzqv ​hey xah ! Dhawan G. Gayash ​Good morning, Xah! bl ​are you thinking about updating to windows 11? Dion Bridger ​The guy who wrote "Dive into Python" abandoned the open source community too Dion Bridger ​and there was another famous Ruby programmer who did this Dion Bridger ​"The Lucky Stiff" he was called. His reason: "programming is rather thankless. u see your works become replaced by superior ones in a year. unable to run at all in a few more." noobXqoou ​string rewriting systems you mean? FFSray ​[message retracted] FFSray ​[message retracted] Alan W ​hi xah and friends FFSray ​Xah, what does Windows give you, that Linux / Unix doesn't have? Felipe Peressim ​Thank you for all work you've done so far! SmokinSpectre ​Based Stream :) Alan W ​fills bad man Alan W ​the fills Dion Bridger ​lol Alan Alan W ​gen-x made emojis n skin color n stuff Arcoders ​goodvibes Alan W ​us millen gen spam images n videos Alan W ​we are not satisfied with mere codepoints Alan W ​"runes" and other madness Dizziness ​Do you know Josha Bach, pronounced Yosha Bakh in English? Dion Bridger ​the game programmer guy? noobXqoou ​what will your emacs packages cost? noobXqoou ​Zeitgeist? Dion Bridger ​that's it Dizziness ​Josha is the successor of Marvin Minsky. Check his interview on Lex Fridman, or some of his talks on youtube. Dion Bridger ​Windows XP was peak windows Dion Bridger ​the user interface is changed, because of politics and careerism, at a guess. Paul Eduard ​windows 11 looks like it uses the KDE framework. Paul Eduard ​🙂 Niko Rosvall ​No need for microsoft account on windows 11 (professional version) AnalyticMinded ​shhh... don't mention Linux to Xah... he'll explode! lol Dizziness ​Is Xah or Lee your first and last name? Isn't it switched in Chinese language? ;D Anyway, what do you think about the current situation between China and Taiwan, as a Taiwanese born person? Paul Eduard ​I know Xah rants against open source, but I disagree with the assessment. GitHub, RedHat etc. are all doing opensource and IBM and MS had to adapt or fall behind! It's great for open source programrs noobXqoou ​have you tried search engines like searx or yacy? Borscht Nazi ​whoa, they keyboard setup is almost what I did with mine... Eerie. D I V E S T ​Why D I V E S T ​I learned ruby from their guide, I also first learn map and reduce from that guide Dion Bridger ​As best I know Dhawan G. Gayash ​Got to drop off, thank you xah. This was my first live day talk show. Dion Bridger ​Marl Pilgrim vanished to this day. Dion Bridger ​Mark* Dion Bridger ​I think participation in open source can be very difficult Dion Bridger ​you will get attacked Dion Bridger ​subjected to politics Dion Bridger ​people tear your work apart D I V E S T ​I've built many open source projects, some of them moderately successful, and I've never been attacked or subject to politics. Dion Bridger ​I'm talking about being high profile D I V E S T ​Participation in open source and free software will not automatically result in you getting attacked. There are scaling problems in all walks of life, OSS is not special in this regard. Paul Eduard ​That is true @Dion Bridger ... others make participation on O/S difficult but there is an effort to change that and I think younger programmrs will benefit. D I V E S T ​Woah that's a massive mug! Dizziness ​Joshua disagreed with a lot with Lex Fridman. He is on another level of knowledge when compared with Lex. This message is held for review. Dizziness ​Josha not Joshua, fucking autocorrect ;) Paul Eduard ​I think if you want to get into programming there is a host of free tools to get started/1 but there are other benefits D I V E S T ​We live in a flawed world: even the fact that open source powers the economy proves that collaboration works noobXqoou ​bye D I V E S T ​It's a beacon of hope in a capitalist nightmare Dion Bridger ​adios Paul Eduard ​Good talk once again! AnalyticMinded ​a mostly rant stream... good! lol Dion Bridger ​open source has injected NOx into the veins of capitalism Dion Bridger ​it's the biggest fallacy, to think it represents a model that is any kind of alternative to capitalism Nig Oot ​free software is not the same as open source Dion Bridger ​free software as well. Dion Bridger ​Free software has shifted the logic of how profit works. Instead of paying directly for software, your data is monetized by software-as-a-service powered in large part by FOSS tools. Nig Oot ​No thats open source Dion Bridger ​lol Paul Eduard ​Capitalism relies on screwing people during boom/bust cycle. Creating scarcity and surplus is its fame! FOSS did not take on capitalism! But maybe early on some thought it could - live and learn. noobXqoou ​bye Aurelio Hernandez ​do you recommend configure just emacs or spacemacs for Django and python development ??