Seamus Slack ​@Xah Lee yes that makes sense. Dion Bridger ​am I missing something? BartholomewJS ​You learn it in 1 week or a non-Coder? 😁 Dion Bridger ​Lisp is the simplest! It's all lambda calculus 😛 Dion Bridger ​Jk Seamus Slack ​🤣🤣 BartholomewJS ​Sorry, if I offend anyone but: I think Python is one of the worst languages of all and definitely the worst among the Top 10... My opinion! 😀 Dion Bridger ​But it just werks ;( BartholomewJS ​Python is the language that has worked the least for me... (Am I just cursed?) Dion Bridger ​I don't know. What have you used it for? Seamus Slack ​@BartholomewJS What was your first language? Dion Bridger ​Or tried using it for? Iris García ​Python is very good if you use it for what it is good at :P Dion Bridger ​^ nothing, huhuhuh BartholomewJS ​Running apps written on Go, C, C++, Rust, Julia, other very exotic languages... All no problem. But Python... It feels like my system breaks at least once a month ONLY because of Python. BartholomewJS ​@Seamus Slack Java 😂 BartholomewJS ​What is Python good for? Look at Julia. It addresses every application that Python is used for, except Julia is (in my opinion) a million times better than Python, in pretty much every aspect. Iris García ​What about OpenStack for example ? Seamus Slack ​@BartholomewJS That makes sense. all the other languages you listed have a lot more explicitly defined scope. Python it's the only with just \t . Iris García ​Or Ansible ? :D Dion Bridger ​"What is Python good for" -- understanding what you were trying to do after coming back to code you haven't seen in a year, in my experience. BartholomewJS ​@Dion Bridger I didn't try it myself, but Julia is I suppose pretty similar in terms of readability. BartholomewJS ​I mean I didn't leave Julia code alone for a year, yet. Dion Bridger ​I've never used Julia so I can't give an opinion. If it has the same degree of libraries available, I might. BartholomewJS ​@Seamus Slack The first time I had to touch Python3, I was shocked it did not have `case`... I will never lose memory of this trauma... 😂 Dion Bridger ​{ 1: function1, 2:function2 }[ key ]( *,a **kw ) ;) BartholomewJS ​Actually, I said "F a ck " because it sounds more Xah Lee like. Seamus Slack ​@BartholomewJS I know the feeling you end up with a lot of if trees BartholomewJS ​@Dion Bridger Is this a dictionairy? I read something about that, yes... Dion Bridger ​yep. or just "hash table" if you prefer calling a spade a spade Iris García ​rolf BartholomewJS ​Ah. It would've made it easier for me if they just said "hash table". 😑 Dion Bridger ​you can use them to construct "case" statements, in combination with functions. Dion Bridger ​I wish Python had a better lambda though BartholomewJS ​When I read "dictionairy" I was like "I have to make my own dictionairy as a replacement for a simple `case` ??" 😂 Dion Bridger ​yeet Seamus Slack ​@Dion Bridger Well your using it wrong, lamdba, it's supposed to be makefunction. 😂 BartholomewJS ​Hey, at least "AZERTY" sounds cooler than "QWERTY"... 😂 BartholomewJS ​Yes, Germans use QWERTZ, in general. BartholomewJS ​It is indeed stupid to swap Y and Z, it was a pain in the ass in minimalistic games, where you can't change the controls.. Dion Bridger ​Maybe it was a bureaucratic thing Dion Bridger ​Turkish government didn't want to suffer the malign corrupting influence of the decadent QWERTY layout BartholomewJS ​In Germany going to the toilet is also a bureaucratic thing... BartholomewJS ​They wanted a Muslim layout? Dion Bridger ​German toilets have a flat surface instead of a bowl. Dion Bridger ​Strange people. BartholomewJS ​they swapped the keys so it says ALLAH where QWERTZ should be ? 🤣 Dion Bridger ​haha BartholomewJS ​Some, yes. To be honest I like the flat ones more. BartholomewJS ​Xah, join our toilet discussion. Seamus Slack ​@Xah Lee origin of qwerty stiletto pools and typewrites. Typewriter companies laid them out to keep the hammers form sticking. Dion Bridger ​instead of a windows key they have "☝️" Seamus Slack ​I guess it's the same per nation BartholomewJS ​🤣 BartholomewJS ​@Dion Bridger I think I am the only one understanding your last statement. I feel honoured. 😂 Dion Bridger ​Mashallah brother BartholomewJS ​Inshallah, our prophet will cure you, peace be upon him. Sergey D ​Well, Russian layout is actually much better than qwerty Dion Bridger ​There is no LINUX without GNU and Stallman is its prophet BartholomewJS ​GNU sent Linux to die for Apple's sins. Dion Bridger ​I have but its in Python, not elisp :p Dion Bridger ​doesn't track scope though BartholomewJS ​Xah Lee's next CV: "Professional Influencer by doing Xah Live Streams, every day" BartholomewJS ​Xah our prophet BartholomewJS ​Fights against Richard's heretics. Dion Bridger ​yes BartholomewJS ​With their destructive Unix sect... Dion Bridger ​our angry prophet This message is held for review. BartholomewJS ​We need a cross with Xah on it and the title over his head will be " Fa c K UNIX PHOLOSOPHY AND HIS PROPHET; RICHARD STALLMANN" Dion Bridger ​I think Xah is not used to this many chats. You don't have to read everything Xah! BartholomewJS ​Xah Buffer Overflow, he will shutdown in n minutes. Shutdown initiated. BartholomewJS ​Xah should make an addon for popular programming languages which changes critical errors to "LOOK DIS f A cK NULL POINTER SH i ii iT EXCEPTION~~" BartholomewJS ​YES HE LIKES JULIA BartholomewJS ​YES BartholomewJS ​YES BartholomewJS ​YES nic w ​Julia rocks! BartholomewJS ​Julia is niche? Come ooooooooon.... That's not true. Dion Bridger ​Well this girl sounds like she gets around BartholomewJS ​She gets around hard af. nic w ​hi 😃 BartholomewJS ​"The nic on twidda" BartholomewJS ​Brilliant. nic w ​yes, nwerneck BartholomewJS ​THE nic BartholomewJS ​🤣 nic w ​Julia is definitely worth it if you do a lot of numerical and scientific programming. I do believe it can grow beyond that some day BartholomewJS ​"Map" is still better than a book translating words from a foreign language to your own. BartholomewJS ​@nic w Do you do a lot with Julia? Dion Bridger ​Guido hates computer science BartholomewJS ​I'm a beginner with Julia. nic w ​I think hash has something to do with food BartholomewJS ​With cookies. BartholomewJS ​hash (n.2) in cookies. Iris García ​Remember OS X is basically UNIX :D BartholomewJS ​Oh BartholomewJS ​My BartholomewJS ​God BartholomewJS ​I found it Dion Bridger ​What, Jesus? BartholomewJS ​I think links get deleted don't they? Dion Bridger ​oh sheeeeeeet BartholomewJS ​Do you see the links guys? Iris García ​Nope Dion Bridger ​ah no BartholomewJS ​I posted the link... BartholomewJS ​! Dion Bridger ​god damn you Dion Bridger ​tell you want, encode it in base64 or something Iris García ​Maye it look like: three w dot whatever dot com BartholomewJS ​prepend groups google com nic w ​damn black hat hackers posting links !!! BartholomewJS ​add slashes as needed: This message is held for review. Dion Bridger ​w w w . p e n i s l a n d . c o m BartholomewJS ​groups google com forum #!topic comp´dot unix dot solaris s_7fwvCa8TU BartholomewJS ​Wow, still not working... Dion Bridger ​just post the google groups id number man This message is held for review. Iris García ​http : // www dot google dot com This message is held for review. BartholomewJS ​s_7fwvCa8TU Dion Bridger ​id of the post/page/we BartholomewJS ​Zitron pasted the link, still not working. BartholomewJS ​I think only Xah can post links. Dion Bridger ​damnit google BartholomewJS ​forum slash hashtag exclamation mark topic slash comp dot unix dot solaris slash s_7fwvCa8TU Seamus Slack ​Dictionary is best because it is a thing you use to look something up in. Example = {'@Xah Lee":"Host", "apple":[ 'a fruit', 'over priced computers'], 'users':'things that break software'} Justin Heyes-Jones ​Hi Xah BartholomewJS ​Greetings, Justin. Justin Heyes-Jones ​haha hash vs dictionary vs map is very ambiguous terms Justin Heyes-Jones ​every language does it differently Dion Bridger ​this is like being back in school and the chatty kids keep sending the teacher on tangents Justin Heyes-Jones ​lol BartholomewJS ​I apsted the link 10 times, I have written it out in words ... BartholomewJS ​Yes on google groups BartholomewJS ​max number of directories inside a dir BartholomewJS ​"max number of directories inside a dir" BartholomewJS ​Is your thread title. nic w ​@BartholomewJS I tried to post a link about my Julia project earlier: look for chipsort juliacon on youtube BartholomewJS ​max number of directories inside a dir5 posts by 4 authors BartholomewJS ​This chat is crap nic w ​trigger-happy! BartholomewJS ​Can you turn off any censoring? BartholomewJS ​Thanks Google. BartholomewJS ​"max number of directories inside a dir" is the thread title. BartholomewJS ​Xah 😫 BartholomewJS ​"max number of directories inside a dir" is the thread title! Iris García ​@Xah Lee Read the comment BartholomewJS ​Even the ID was censored.. BartholomewJS ​@Xah Lee Read my comment. BartholomewJS ​"max number of directories inside a dir" is the thread title! BartholomewJS ​Cringe BartholomewJS ​"max number of directories inside a dir" is the thread title! BartholomewJS ​I'm cringing so hard right now Iris García ​max number of directories inside a dir BartholomewJS ​FINALLY This message is held for review. Dion Bridger ​does anyone feel like youtube hides comment replies from you Iris García ​@Xah Lee Search: "max number of directories inside a dir" BartholomewJS ​FINALLY HE GOT IT😨😨😨 This message is held for review. BartholomewJS ​Holy shit Justin Heyes-Jones ​😁 BartholomewJS ​He wrote it on 4/20 2002 BartholomewJS ​Xah is our prophet, for real. Dion Bridger ​wow Dion Bridger ​can I be one of the top guys in our cult BartholomewJS ​I'm the HR guy in the cult. Dion Bridger ​who gets money and followers and stuff nic w ​taglines! BartholomewJS ​For the sacrifices, we need a lot of HR. Dion Bridger ​HR is the reason most cults suck! BartholomewJS ​Oooooooooh UFS.... nic w ​nowadays you can even "git blame" to find out the culprit BartholomewJS ​Indeed. @nic w 😂 BartholomewJS ​Xah started Unix rant, this will bring peace upon his followers. nic w ​the guy has a tagline "Got some Dr. Pepper?"!!! hahaha Dion Bridger ​I'm ascending BartholomewJS ​I'm ascetic af. Dion Bridger ​the unix hate fuels me Dion Bridger ​I can feel my power growing BartholomewJS ​I'm so ascetic I am ergo emacs with Mathematica on Anti-Unix OS. BartholomewJS ​With a Star Wars T-Shirt as the sacrifical garmet. BartholomewJS ​I digress so much, that I digress back to the original topic. Dion Bridger ​that's it BartholomewJS ​Recursive digression.. Dion Bridger ​we have to DDOS reddit Dion Bridger ​I'm going to refresh the front page as fast as my index finger can move Justin Heyes-Jones ​I think people that cannot take criticism are terrible for the software community BartholomewJS ​Use the LMB and F5 at the same time. Justin Heyes-Jones ​always coming with code of conduct and trying to protect themselves from any questions BartholomewJS ​@Justin Heyes-Jones Exactly. Dion Bridger ​OBEY THE COC Dion Bridger ​YOU TROLL BartholomewJS ​(Hmmm, someone seriously questions me...) STOP ABUSING ME, GO AWAY!!! This message is held for review. Justin Heyes-Jones ​lol they call you troll or nazi BartholomewJS ​😂 Justin Heyes-Jones ​take your code seriously but not personally Dion Bridger ​t.h.i.s.c.o.m.m.u.n.i.t.y.i.s.t.o.x.i.c BartholomewJS ​His mouse is possessed by a Unix demon. Justin Heyes-Jones ​someone insults my code i want to understand if they are write and maybe learn something BartholomewJS ​I'm toxic for life, brothers. BartholomewJS ​Yes, we are all write. Justin Heyes-Jones ​lol glad to hear it @BartholomewJS Dion Bridger ​we are all write on this blessed day Justin Heyes-Jones ​"deconstruct this idiot" hahah BartholomewJS ​Xah is super write though, he will always be the writest. BartholomewJS ​I'm gonna cringe so hard when Xah reads this and he won't understand what we are talking about. 😂😂😂 Dion Bridger ​mommy's all write Dion Bridger ​daddy's all write Dion Bridger ​they just seem a little straaaAAAaaange BartholomewJS ​🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 BartholomewJS ​Xah: I am so straaAAAAaaange I can only be write BartholomewJS ​I don't need to be responsible when I'm write. Dion Bridger ​reminds me of when Erik Naggum would textually nuke people for being wrong about something BartholomewJS ​Erik: YOU ARE NOT WRITE!!!! Dion Bridger ​Erik was always write, but he was so write died from stress ( that's not a joke btw ) BartholomewJS ​I am looking at his Wikipedia, right now. Dion Bridger ​look up some Naggum Quotes online Justin Heyes-Jones ​Great stream Xah! I will go back and watch the beginning Dion Bridger ​wait doesn't elisp have a "cond" macro???? BartholomewJS ​To be honest, when I read about Erik Naggum, it feels like I am reading about myself. 🤣 Dion Bridger ​oh? This message is held for review. nic w ​Unix philosophy fsck!! Dion Bridger ​I'm confused Xah BartholomewJS ​No, you are write. Dion Bridger ​oh Seamus Slack ​@Xah Lee With the or abuse, why does it matter if you are only using 2 cases? BartholomewJS ​Because it is not write. Dion Bridger ​I am confused about what is wrong with the or construct -- surely a buffer check predicate isn't a candidate for parallelization? This message is held for review. Seamus Slack ​Testing if this works... f u c k nic w ​Dijkstra was the king of weirdware BartholomewJS ​Xah is write. Dion Bridger ​oh so you have cond Seamus Slack ​this is a meFssage. there are maUny like it but this one is miCne. Don't worry it's another test. juKst a test. BartholomewJS ​I need to use this tactic, too. @Seamus Slack Seamus Slack ​@BartholomewJS You're very welcome. nic w ​That's what makes the @Xah Lee show great! 😃 BartholomewJS ​You do you. 🤘 nic w ​👏 BartholomewJS ​Indeed. @nic w Dion Bridger ​Was elisp "or" intended to be an analog to the FOL "or" though? Dion Bridger ​It seems like style purism is the enemy of pragmatism Dion Bridger ​I always prefer the pragmatic solution personally. It's a question of whether the operation of the code is clear or not IMO. Dion Bridger ​First Order Logic BartholomewJS ​If you put efficiency over elegance, all will be good. ZitronCrazy ​bye ^^ Seamus Slack ​Good see you tomarrow BartholomewJS ​Goodbye BartholomewJS ​You are write Dion Bridger ​Bye Xah nic w ​ciao Kathy H ​Thanks for the talk Dion Bridger ​Bye all Xah Lee Say something... 0/200